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10 minutes ago, Parmcat said:

Are German hand made glass the same time frame as the clays?

 

This one is actually glass imho.
It may be a ballot box marble or game marble. (these came in black and white--the ballot box marbles, one color meant Yes--the other No)
Notice the grind marks and the little twisting twirl in your first image. These are both commonly found in Old German handmade glass marbles.
Nice find imho—does light shine through it?
Marble—On!!
 

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2 hours ago, akroorka said:

This one is actually glass imho.
It may be a ballot box marble or game marble. (these came in black and white--the ballot box marbles, one color meant Yes--the other No)
Notice the grind marks and the little twisting twirl in your first image. These are both commonly found in Old German handmade glass marbles.
Nice find imho—does light shine through it?
Marble—On!!
 

Doesn't appear that light shines through this one 

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Consider the possibility (however small) that it may not be clay.  In the pics (which may be different than in-hand) the graining seems exceptionally dense and fine - and therefore hard.  I think there is a possibility that it could be porcelain.

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6 hours ago, Alan said:

Consider the possibility (however small) that it may not be clay.  In the pics (which may be different than in-hand) the graining seems exceptionally dense and fine - and therefore hard.  I think there is a possibility that it could be porcelain.

Now we're getting crazy....lol

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Alan doesn't say a lot but when he does, I pay attention.

And revisiting this marble with closer scrutiny, I think I see what he sees. The overall shape of the marble looks a tad lumpy for glass. I also see some surface aberrations that look a bit more like "cracking" in glaze rather than scratching in glass. I may have focused too much on that little rotary "nubbin" in the upper right photo, which is something I have never seen on a porcelain marble before. It's an interesting example.

I recommend you calculate it's volume, weigh it, determine it's density, and report back.

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Of course, I'm kidding - see if you can find a little divot on it and look at with magnification. If it's porcelain, it should be fairly obvious.

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10 minutes ago, Ric said:

Alan doesn't say a lot but when he does, I pay attention.

And revisiting this marble with closer scrutiny, I think I see what he sees. The overall shape of the marble looks a tad lumpy for glass. I also see some surface aberrations that look a bit more like "cracking" in glaze rather than scratching in glass. I may have focused too much on that little rotary "nubbin" in the upper right photo, which is something I have never seen on a porcelain marble before. It's an interesting example.

I recommend you calculate it's volume, weigh it, determine it's density, and report back.

😁

Of course, I'm kidding - see if you can find a little divot on it and look at with magnification. If it's porcelain, it should be fairly obvious.

I have a handful of these that all look similar.  I am going to take some time to clean one if them off and try to get better pictures if the markings.

This is the first I've heard about porcelain marbles.  Where they made at the same time as glass/clay type stuff?

That's is really blowing me away, and I can't believe how much fun I'm having playing with marbles 

 

Thanks again!

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