Wolf Posted Friday at 10:15 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 10:15 PM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted Friday at 11:16 PM Report Share Posted Friday at 11:16 PM I agree with wow x2. I cannot ID this one. Marble--On!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted Friday at 11:32 PM Author Report Share Posted Friday at 11:32 PM 10 minutes ago, akroorka said: I agree with wow x2. I cannot ID this one. Marble--On!! It's a CAC. .70 The CEO of "Old Rare Marbles" IDed it as such. 2 other high-end CAC sellers also did with one saying it's a tricolor CAC swirl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted yesterday at 12:11 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:11 AM I appreciate that you have other ID's my marble collecting friend. We all have to get several Id's to be sure. I looked through my books on this one--just for this one. It is not a CAC and that means nothing because it is just a great Alley Agate. Of course, this is just my opinion and I just suck at wvs ID. Marble--On!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted yesterday at 12:34 AM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:34 AM I don't know.... Yall will have to argue it out. I'm just the messenger 🤷 I know this though, ""CAC marbles are known to have a "9 and tail" pattern, but it is the earlier company, M.F. Christensen & Son Company (MFC), that is more strongly associated with this feature. The "9 and tail" appears on hand-gathered slag and opaque marbles from both companies, though some collectors note differences in the markings between them" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted yesterday at 03:04 AM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:04 AM 2 hours ago, Wolf said: I don't know.... Yall will have to argue it out. I'm just the messenger 🤷 I know this though, ""CAC marbles are known to have a "9 and tail" pattern, but it is the earlier company, M.F. Christensen & Son Company (MFC), that is more strongly associated with this feature. The "9 and tail" appears on hand-gathered slag and opaque marbles from both companies, though some collectors note differences in the markings between them" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted yesterday at 03:26 AM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:26 AM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted yesterday at 03:32 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:32 AM @Wolf its awesome you are doing a little research . O.p is not a handgathered marble that is a random 9ish pattern on that marble 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted yesterday at 03:33 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 03:33 AM Btw killer mib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted yesterday at 04:04 AM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 04:04 AM 23 minutes ago, Tommy said: @Wolf its awesome you are doing a little research . O.p is not a handgathered marble that is a random 9ish pattern on that marble That's a better 9 than I could have drawn, plus I have an extremely high regard for the "Old Rare Marbles" CEO. Block auctions refers to him as well as one of the Best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carowill Posted yesterday at 05:50 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 05:50 AM 1 hour ago, Wolf said: That's a better 9 than I could have drawn, plus I have an extremely high regard for the "Old Rare Marbles" CEO. Block auctions refers to him as well as one of the Best. An important thing to remember, NO one is right all the time when it comes to marble identification. Bob Block, Chuck Sumner, the amazing Ron Shepherd and others sometimes miss the mark. Keep an open mind when you get opinions regarding marble ID’s. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted yesterday at 06:34 AM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 06:34 AM 37 minutes ago, Carowill said: An important thing to remember, NO one is right all the time when it comes to marble identification. Bob Block, Chuck Sumner, the amazing Ron Shepherd and others sometimes miss the mark. Keep an open mind when you get opinions regarding marble ID’s. Point taken. None of us are 135 years old and were at the active facilities looking at everything that was produced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMarbles Posted yesterday at 11:05 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 11:05 AM I looked at the pictures of this marble before reading the context. I thought it was an Alley Agate and I would lean that way. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnhop Posted yesterday at 12:41 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:41 PM Ya, although theres a 9 pattern, I'm not seeing CAC or MFC in this on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carowill Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago I have a big CAC collection and I do think this marble could be Christensen. I think the "9" you are referring to is a 'turkey head'. That doesn't make it more valuable, however. Alley made some flames that are very hard to differentiate from CAC. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted 22 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 22 hours ago 50 minutes ago, Carowill said: I have a big CAC collection and I do think this marble could be Christensen. I think the "9" you are referring to is a 'turkey head'. That doesn't make it more valuable, however. Alley made some flames that are very hard to differentiate from CAC. It's incredibly beautiful. Here's sunlight pictures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parmcat Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago Doesn't look hand gathered to me. I think all the MFC 9 tails were hand gathered. I agree it's a killer marble, but looks like an Alley to me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wolf Posted 18 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 4 hours ago, Carowill said: I have a big CAC collection and I do think this marble could be Christensen. I think the "9" you are referring to is a 'turkey head'. That doesn't make it more valuable, however. Alley made some flames that are very hard to differentiate from CAC. Yes, one of the other CAC sellers said that it's a Turkey head connected to CACs, and that longer 9 tails are associated with MFCs. But then another one said it had characteristics of both. None mentioned Alley. You said you have a big CAC collection? Well you have the factory right in front of you. You're straight! 😃 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago @Wolf Here are a couple examples of what is referred to as a 9 and tail.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago Great topic and discussion here. I applaud you all . Marble--On!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted 12 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 12 hours ago Found another Turkey head. A little blue one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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