Ric

Oh no, I am not calling anything into doubt - they look Akro enough to me. Maybe they ran a peewee machine to make them only for wholesale to jobbers like Rosenthal, and just thought it would be cute to put one in those Popeye boxes. I mean, Akro never sold bags or boxes of 000 marbles under their own name, correct? I wonder if anyone has found any paperwork indicating that Akro sold peewees in bulk.

I would say foreign too - maybe Imperial, maybe Vacor.

Swee'Pea is Popeye and Olive Oyl's child, or the peewee marble packaged in those Popeye boxes. A Sweet Pea is a green based Vitro with yellow and red/pink (or a flowering plant, or a vegetable). Let's not make things anymore confusing than they already are. lol

@akroorka Man, you think those wafer-looking mibs like the one I posted are the worst? I think they're pretty cool. But I don't think the ones Jzook6 posted are the same type as the one I posted - not even close.

@Chad G. Quoting myself, aka, doing an Art . . . lol Maybe this is how the debate was resolved - finding that peewee patches were placed in those Popeye boxes . . .

@Chad G. Thanks for the links. So any Akro peewee is called a Swee'pee, regardless of colors?

Ha! I just realized that the Aquamilk on the left in the last photo is the same marble as the one in the group of Aquamarines. lol

You're right many Popeye boxes had a single peewee in the compartment with the bag. Art has talked about it too. I am not saying these marbles aren't Akro - they sure look it to me. I just want to hear if and how the debate was resolved.

It looks Akro to me too - what size is it?

As for the pattern, I think it may just be a wholly machine-made marble that got spun in the process and that it is probably not hand-gathered. Sorta like these.

We need @Steph to take a look at this thread. I know there was considerable debate about where Rosenthal acquired the peewees for their games and I am not sure if it has been resolved. The fact is that Akro made very few marbles at the 00 size (9/16") let alone smaller 000, peewee, size mibs. And to fill their game boxes, Rosenthal would have needed a ton of them so . . .?

Yup, it's a Vacor.

Vacor all the way. If you look at their swirls, they often have four ribbons of color. This one just didn't swirl enough to obscure that cut-off (seam).

No JABO, that's for sure - it's a Master with a wobbly patch, IMO. That stray ribbon that looks like it's on the other side of the marble just wandered away from the patch.

Wow, Dave, I am really digging that second one!

Most likely a Rainbo IMO.

@Jzoook6 I am not very familiar with other types of Master cat's eyes but yours look newer to me. Apparently, @akroorka has some Master Glass cat's eye bags though so maybe he'll have a better idea.

It's all in good fun, Rick. I hope you know I'm just goofing around too.

Oh yeah, that's a keeper!

I'd like to see a pic of the bottom pole of this marble - the bottom of the marble as it sits in the caliper pic.

It's a pretty one, no doubt, I'm thinking foreign too.

FWIW, I am not sure what kind of marble this is but I am not thinking it's JABO. I'd like to see a nice straight-on photo of the seam (or the end of the patch) that is showing at the bottom of the marble in your first pic.

I believe you are thinking about Marble King St. Mary's Cat's - that's where they did their original 4-colors and cross-thoughs.

A lot of these small ones showed up in games.

That's a great Vitro Aquamilk, Melissa! Just FYI, there is a wide range of variation in this type of Vitro. In the most sought after examples of Aquamarines that yellow turns to brown and will cover most or all of the white. Then if it gets a good Vitro "V" or a twist in it and some added Vitro oxblood you've got yourself one heck-of-a marble! Here's a big Aquamarine variant with lots of brown/amber transparent - a bit weak on the aqua though. Here are some more Aquamarine variants . . . with an Aquamilk like yours in the middle row, left of center. And finally, here are a couple of more Aquamilks like yours. They're all great Vitros and I'll grab every one I can get!