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Looks more like an Akro Ace to me - no UV glow from the base.

And you didn't. lol

I really do not like IDing Kokomos from photos unless it's a distinctive type that I am very familiar with. They are just so uncommon relative to Peltier that I always proceed with extreme caution. But I know you have already shown some from your collection that I am very confident about, and those cruddy looking bubble inclusions are often, but perhaps not exclusively, a Kokomo trait - just sayin'.

It is a very cool and intriguing marble but these types are definitely not my strong suit and I really have no idea where it came from. It looks hand-gathered though and the colors remind me of many Czech marbles I've seen. Could we see a straight on shot of this area? No guarantee that it will help me much though. 🙂

I am just starting to learn more about these artists and contemporary marbles so I really don't have much to say other than I think it's a fairly common style and it seems pretty well executed. Perhaps @Alan will have some ideas about who made or will be able to correct me if I said something goofy. lol

I don't think I have ever seen that kind of yellow on a MFC. Does it look like there is a pontil on the other side of the marble (opposite the "9")? A few different views might help - my first impression is it that it's from across the pond somewhere.

It's a wild one, for sure - kinda hard to get my head around it. Peltier is one option I see, and I wonder if the thin tracer line in this pic was supposed to be a fourth ribbon or if somehow the two ribbons merged into one. It would be such weird MK that I would like to rule that out. The only other option I can think of would be a very odd Akro Corkscrew that somehow swallowed part of itself in a strange way but I don't really see signs of an unusual fold anywhere either. All I can say, is that I am leaning slightly Peltier and I can't entirely explain why. Crazy marble!

I agree the base is a little different, the bubbles look more like Akro to me and I'm not sure if it contains the fine filaments associated with Realers either - it's a pretty tough call and I'm near 50/50 on it. The base on the Royals are more opaque too though, I think.

Neat bakelite board. And very few, if any, of us knew about Veiligglas production in Holland prior to Winnie @winnie (may she rest in peace) gracing us with her presence here and doing considerable research. You may want to check out her old posts for more info.

I think there is a good chance it's a Realer - the opalescence in the base has me leaning that direction.

Is the base glass translucent - they're not really giving me a Vitro vibe. Vitro Whities would either be on an opaque white base or the white and colors would be veneered on clear transparent. I'm thinking Pelt or perhaps Kokomo. Are they opalescent or do they glow under UV?

I agree - a helix would be a single continuous line spiraling around the marble - it should have two obvious ends. Also, the book is referring to glazed China (ceramic/porcelain) marbles. The ones you're showing may also be Chinas but they are unglazed.

They all look like Rainbos to me - nice Sunset on the right. Wait, how many ribbons do you count on the left one - is there one that's like a big loop?

These must be ultra rare since I have never seen them, and I still can't. 🙂

It would be helpful to see the opposite side of the patch from what you are showing. In the meantime, here's a pic of some Acme Realers to compare to . . .

In honor of Bill McCaleb, I'll post some of his little pretties . . . As I've said elsewhere, he sure knew a good one when he saw it.

It might help, or it might just be the marble, or me. 🙂

I would guess foreign on the right one, and probably the left one too. But it's really hard to make out the seams on that one so I am not 100% sure.

What size are these marbles, Melissa? From these views, a few look like JABO to me. At least four different views of a marble are really helpful for an accurate ID, especially with swirls, since it's tough to follow the pattern and get a good picture of the marble in your head with fewer than that (six photos; top, bottom and four sides is even better - think of the mib as a cube). This is especially helpful, sometimes even necessary, if it's a tough call between multiple makers. But given that, it's obvious to me you have come a long way with your photos - these are great!

I think one of the things that becomes difficult with names, in general, is that the name itself or the definition of the marble characteristics that fits the name changes over the long term, and it becomes nearly impossible to keep up with it all, especially if you have been a long time collector like our friend @Jeff54 and many others. Not only are you trying to keep up with newly named marbles but you are trying to keep up with how the names of marbles you once knew as X have changed to Y. It all gets very confusing. When I started collecting, Dragons were NLRs with a darker green base and red ribbons. Flaming Dragons had to show yellow in addition to the red (those marbles are, apparently, now just called Dragons). Of course, if you mix red and yellow, you get orange and I think eventually the requirement that that Flaming Dragons show yellow was dropped, and any marble with orange in addition to red became "flaming" even if no yellow is showing. It's important to remember that when many long time collectors started, few if any machine made marbles even had names, except maybe the ones given to them by kids who played the game, and there was no internet available to the masses so regional differences in names and required characteristics were fairly common. Naming marbles was something that people collaborated on in person, or a rotary phone, or by snail mail using old-time photos printed on paper. Seriously, the name game is way more complicated than many people realize. Myself, I have been tempted many times to just give up on it, but names can be very helpful, especially to new collectors, so I continue to do my best to keep up with it. The old timers have passed hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of marbles through their hands, and they know which ones they've seen thousands of and which ones they've seen three of. Like my recently departed friend Billy used to say, "I know a good marble and a rare marble when I see it and I collect what I like." It's a good strategy too, since many beautiful and rare machine made marbles don't have names - at least that I know of. 🙂 So if we are conversing, and I call a certain type of green based NLR with yellow ribbons a "John Deere", please go easy one me - that's what I called them for many years, and add to that the fact that no one I know has ever seen a yellow John Deere tractor with green lettering. There, I feel much better now. 😄

It's pretty neat the way one cutoff of each marble in that Pelt double are buried in the interface between the ingots and the others are on opposite sides of the double. The whole thing is remarkably round too - very cool.

That pumpkin colored patch on the Moss Agate is an Akro tell, IMO.

At this point, I concur with Art - they are most likely JABO.

Oh boy, I'll have to look in my Akro stash - I set the small ones aside too. I'll see what I can dig up but it may take a while, I have more marbles than I know what to do with and finding them could take awhile.

I am sure some of those don't glow but do you know if any of the ones with red and blue ribbons don't glow? I sure would like to know for future reference.