And sorry to the rest of the folks on the board, but it seems the marble world is always on the fritz in some way shape or form, it never stops it's always drama, it has to be the most shameful undermining hobby i have ever got into, always out for a buck or to rip someone off (knowingly in most cases) but again im sorry but it had to be stated that Mike doesn't mind ripping people off to boast about the collection he has built by stealing from people....