Steph

A lot of pix. Sources provided when I remember them. (click pix to enlarge) Note: There are many other pix in the links here: Links: Original Packaging Links: Vitro Agate Vitro Timeline And a treasure trove here: Vitro Agate , Marbles And A Little History The sequel ;-): "the" Vitro Thread ! ( Part Deux ;-) Value, Rarity & Names Oh yeah, this has some lovely pix also, from a 1938 ad someone sent me. Vienna Vitros !!! Many of these are from Marblealan auctions: 60 Vitro Agates: 30 Vitro Agates: Vitro's Victory Agates: Vitro Conquerors: Agates, 5 of them, 5/8" to 21/32": Looks like a stock box. No identifying marks. Posted by Nancy at LOM. Boxes like this are shown under the name "Tri-Lite Marbles" in an early Vitro brochure. (source) "More Or Less 100 Vitro Agates". If I understand correctly this box was filled in Vienna. It says Parkersburg because that was Vitro's mailing address even when the factory was in Vienna. (source)

Mesh Bag, 25 Champion Agates: (click to enlarge) (source) Note: There are other pix in the links here, Links: Original Packaging. [Actually there aren't any others as of the time of this writing, lol!, but there might be someday.] And here is a great Champion page: David Chamberlain's article at Marble Mental.

Some more Pelts. Note: This Marble King label is from before the Marble King company was founded. Sunshine Rippled Wheat premium: Worcester Salt: (click to enlarge) And these playing it safe, with no marble company name, just "Glass Marbles": Morton's Salt: (click to enlarge) And then some more "Glass Marbles", in a Champion Jr. bag, but still not branded Peltier: One more Morton Salt bag. Is it missing marbles, or were some bags packed lighter?

This went for $330 at auction in March. The seller described it as a "Fancy Jobber Box". (Who was the seller? Is the blue background Lloyd's trademark?) No. 5, National Onyx marbles: (that last view shows two dividers from inside the box) Chinko-Checko-Marblo box:

Way too cool to miss. A printer's block. Here's the auction description: (click to enlarge)

Some auction pix from the files. Sorry, wasn't keeping track of the sources yet when I saved most of these first ones. Note 1: the "click to enlarge" option isn't working right since the last forum upgrade. I need to edit this. Note2: There are many other pix in the links here, Compilation: Original Packaging and Links: Peltier 1992 bag: 2002 bag: This bag says, "Elect Cinamon Commisioner". (click to enlarge) What might the ages on these be? Some are Marble King? (click to enlarge) Vintage comics, in reproduction box: (click to enlarge) Another reproduction box: And a couple more reproduction boxes. I think the marbles are Marble King. And I think these would be originals: (click to enlarge)

Only Lucky Boys and Girls get Shamrock Marbles. John McCormick marbles. I think these came from Block auctions. Note: There may be other pix in links here, Compilation: Original Packaging.

A couple more threads to look at: http://marbleconnection.com/topic/21874-lawrence-glass-novelty-company-from-the-ground/ http://marbleconnection.com/topic/13019-alleys-blue-skies-and-blush-lines/ http://marbleconnection.com/topic/22071-st-marys-alleys/ Most of these pix are from auctions. I try to keep track of sellers and other sources now, but when I started this thread I didn't have all the names stored, so I may still be missing some IDs. From past Rinesmarbles auctions, these are Alleys dug at Pennsboro, placing their date of origin around 1934-1937. Misshapen ones, showing a couple of interesting color combos: I'm fairly sure these were also said to have been dug at Pennsboro: Note: There are other pix in the links here, Compilation: Original Packaging.

When I saw Ron's pix in the links in Post #5, I was confused about a couple of things! For one, I saw boxes that said Cloudy but I didn't see any Cloudies. Why? It turns out all of Ron's stock boxes said Cloudy on the end, but they had other things stamped on the top. The thing which made me do a major double take though was the box of master-made Uniques. Here's the Marble Mental thread where I asked him about those: Ron, your unique .... A couple of questions were left dangling at the end, but he took care of the main stuff in a fascinating way. The old storekeeper he got the boxes from still had the record of the original purchase. How cool is that. One of the dangling questions I'll go ahead and put to you here is, are there any books which list the Unique as a Master company name? Plus there are more pix of game marbles than the little 400 x 300 auction photos I have in Post #2 here. And I learned from one of the "game marble" pix that Master used the name Opal too. And there's a lot more, including scans from Stan Block's Marble Mania, which is packed with original packaging

Thanks guys.

What are the dates for the Albright company? Would these "American commies" have been Albrights in 1933? (click to enlarge) Update: It appears that J. E. Albright was making clays in 1933. The Thomas' Registry dates for the J. E. Albright company are 1918 to 1937. See American Marble Companies, 1905-1942, at AkronMarbles.com for additional Albright listings and more information regarding the meaning of Thomas' Registry dates.

Muslin bag full of clay marbles: (click to enlarge) That was in a Bob Block auction last month. He had this to say:

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Er, I mean, does the Akronmarbles site have a name for the kind of line Chuck's mib has? (Yes, I'm feeling smart about seeing that Chuck's mib might have been transitional ... but not smart enough to follow what akronmarbles is saying about pontils versus shearmarks ... okay? Okay. )

I am under the impression that there are vaseline glass transitionals. Is this correct? If so, could Chuck's mib be one?

LOL at how similar the Playday labels are to the Playtime ones, at least the ones on the other 30-counts bags. Alan's Playtime label is odd man out here.

Five 30-count mesh bags, in three colors of mesh: A 15-count mesh bag: This is from Marblebert's auction description of the 30-count bags: This is from Marblealan's description of the 15-count bag:

Weather-Bird marble closeups for comparison: (click to enlarge) (from a marblealan auction, as is the bag with the cat's eyes)

That would be quite an adventure! Downright historical!

Short answer: I think so. The first mesh bag looks like it. I'm pretty sure cat's eyes like that are post-1950 technology, and Alox had stopped making marbles by then. What I've read is that they first distributed others' marbles, then started making their own, then quit making their own, all before 1950, but at that point they had a huge backlog they still needed to distribute. p.s. My information as meager as it is, is cobbled together from a couple of sources and neither is American Machine-Made Marbles. Does that say anything more helpful about the subject? update: I have since read the Alox material in AMMM. And I have seen other Alox packaging from other sources. Alox has made more marbles than most people are aware of. I'm still puzzled about the presence of the cat's eyes, but it is true that Alox had cat's eyes in stock. In addition to whatever regular packaging they had, they also gave cats eyes away as a promotion to sell shoe laces.

(click pix to enlarge) Tit-Tat-Toe: Mesh bag: Another mesh bag:

A few clearies: And a lot more: Contents of a similar box. (Clearer pic, but fewer cool extras, so I can't just substitute this box for that one.) And a few more: That's it for me ... for now ....

No. 13 box, Popsicle-Fudgicle gift package: No. 13 box as a Caraja Coffee promo: Mesh bag: Here are a couple more examples of the contents of No. 13 boxes. Ones with the Fudgicle promo on the bottom.

... feel free to jump in anytime ... ... not that this means I'm done ...

Boxes at Marble Mental: MMM Box Bonanza!!! (super nice cat's eyes) MMM vs. MG (more cat's eyes, and opaques and clearies) Lotsa pix. The ones denoted as Master are a Unique box, two Game Marble boxes, a box of Clearies, and I think a No. 5 box: Ron's Marbles, Toys And Things .