
Jeff54
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No, I do not know of MK ever making up the names kids used. However, Showing my age here, nearly all of the names collectors use are the very same that I and all other kids I played with or knew are the same. 'Bengal tiger, Yup, Tiger, yup, big and small, Hybrid wasp yup! wasp and Black widow, Yup! Watermelon, boy and Girl Scouts and more. Only a few, like Hercules and some new names found in the dumps near the plant were not general common knowledge from kindergarten 1958 through grade school, just about all of the patch and ribbons were in circulation with most already well used. Hybrids like a Bengal or big 1" Girl scout, including blended types, I had collected or or lost in games at school. That is the reason why I have so many different MKs, the affection we kids had.
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The bottom left orange (close to orange juice color) and black, is correct; an MK Tiger.
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It is a Bengal which is different than a blended wasp big or small because the Bengal needs to have yellow or light orange blending in.
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Ah, Here's a Tiger, Terry, grandpawmarble dot com has online: Orange is totally not within a Wasp's range. rather is distinct to it's own category. http://www.grandpamarble.com/html/gm2159b.html
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I have a Tiger but not a photo. Regardless, Tigers are quite different in orange color, being much lighter than any of the variations of Wasps. Tigers are closer to the color of orange juice without a hint of red. .
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They appear as classic Wasps. Wasp colors vary from an orange to red and in-between and rarely Brown as if the red gets burnt. The brown is kind-of red but the actual color of brown has red tones too.
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No, there is no aventurine in MK's Chocolate, Like, as if? Here's yet, another lousy photo of the side where no white lines are on it.
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Actually, there is Chocolate in Marble King which is very rare. The first and only one that I saw was in the late 1990's popped up whenever Jill Spencer was digging and selling MKs. Somebody asked about one and joking because new names were being made, I called it a 'Chocolate chip' and somebody snatched it up ASAP. I did not know if Jill found it and if I recall correctly, it was nice and shiny, unlike most of what she'd found. I had not seen another for several years until about 2010 or so, when somebody dug some fresh near mint + Blended MKs. I picked up 3 of them. I wasn't completely sure the brown was positive and so, there were, also, some brown wasps I passed up that were being called MK Chocolate Cow. Well, except, I was looking for the blend first. Having a hard time getting a good clean photo but Here's a Blended, 'Chocolate Chip' If you will, that also illustrates MK Choco Cow (brown-colored Wasp) is out there too.
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Whenever you can see a single thread or stream meandering inside it, like this, it's a swirl and not a slag. It appears to be A WVS and or a Champion for the meandering string pattern too,
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" I think it’s been said that all hand gathered were slags? ( I very well may be completely wrong about all hand gathered are slags though I feel pretty confident I read something similar somewhere). I find this one to be an anomaly " Nope, Hand-gathered marbles are not 'only slags' I agree with RaR, because Akro turned out a lot of nine patterns shaped like this.
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IDK, just something I can't put my finger on, like peculiar colors. Also for sure, like fake sales. Accordingly, this flame and another like it have sold, but within a ton of this person's sales, the exact same marbles are sold multiple times, days and weeks later. Plus, a lot of easy-to-identify are wrong and many are correct. Hard to imagine can get so many right and then stumble wrong on others. while over a thousand, 1.1 thousand sold from September through today. . Weird. 100% feedback and appears to be on the up and up, no postage price gouging albeit duplicate sales is weird too. .
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Sunday's Best is one of the most awesome Master Marble Sunbursts I have seen. It's an Old photo with low graphics so, ya gotta give it a good look to see all the colors and layering shades on a dark blue base.
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On Ebay. Can't explain it, but looks too good to be true? https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/OfMAAOSwd35laGal/s-l500.jpg Rare Vintage Christensen FLAME Marble .60 Inch Mint Condition | eBay
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Without aventurine then it is probably too difficult to say, it's Peltier. Black and yellow, is a well-known combination of Peltier's. It's also a combination of Mega-Vacor's Poison frog, Bumble Bee and Honey Bee; some being black and others dark brown. IDK, like one year it's black, another, brown?
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Been too busy to reply, but, this is my thoughts here. Oh heck, I didn't think I would need to qualify every variation of red that's in a brick., I mean, I don't have photos to illustrate. I have a Mint 5/8" just about like yours and a couple of others I found in the wild, kind of a matched pair that look like factory rejects Maybe MFC or Akro, IDK for sure who. I mean, ever since all those H-G marbles got dug-up at Akro, I do not believe MFC made them. Add in all those Black Bricks that are very brown under bright light, From Akro Digs while MFC was known for perfection. Those From the Akro digs look more like burnt glass or something for being so dark red. If you don't light them up the red inside is hard to see. Also have a few red/white that are a little chippy,. They resemble used red bricks. with and without darker reds an some almost pink too. I agree with Bob Block's interpretation regarding purple brick VS Oxbood: " "The most popular M.F. Christensen & Son Company marble is the Brick. It was called the “American Cornelian” by the company." The marble is a combination of oxblood-red and either opaque white, opaque black or both. The common name for the Brick derives from the fact that the marble looks like a piece of brick when it is scuffed up. Each marble is unique in its coloring and pattern. The oxblood-red with black are a little rarer than the oxblood-red with white. The most highly sought after examples have very well-defined “9”s and tails. Many examples do not have “9”s at all and some collectors believe that these are either very late examples or perhaps marbles that were made later by the Akro Agate Company. There are also some very early examples that are transitionals and have a pontil. These are German and not M.F. Christensen. The marble is a combination of oxblood-red and either opaque white, opaque black or both. The common name for the Brick derives from the fact that the marble looks like a piece of brick when it is scuffed up. Each marble is unique in its coloring and pattern. The oxblood-red with black are a little rarer than the oxblood-red with white. The most highly sought after examples have very well-defined “9”s and tails. Many examples do not have “9”s at all and some collectors believe that these are either very late examples or perhaps marbles that were made later by the Akro Agate Company. There are also some very early examples that are transitionals and have a pontil. These are German and not M.F. Christensen." Marbles by M.F. Christensen and Son Company (marblecollecting.com)
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Funny you mentioned the "Black Brick" I thought about too but those appeared a few years prior. However, they, hardly came in red rather a very dark brown oxblood with white almost hiding inside that, once you light them up in bright light are pretty cool. There were bunches of these Black Bricks about 3 or four years before the hand-gathered multi-colored marbles in my photo were discovered. I have, IDK, 3 or 4plus one big one at 7/8" 'black bricks'. The 7/8" is a little out of round (a little larger, a little smaller) so, it averages at 7/8". Unfortunately lost the photos I'd taken. Luckily I found a photo of one at grandpa marbles dot com to link in an example, take away the lights it they'll look nearly all black.: I'd guess the Black brick type you acquired from Danni was a choice pick that came later than the dark brown verity, whenever those in my examples were found and finally made its way to ebay through Her. She dealt or still does, in a lot of choice marbles.
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These names: Red Brick, Orange, Common, Purple, Mulberry, peach and others never existed in collector and marble player's history until a little over 20 years ago, whenever a whole new digging spot was uncovered with Hand Gathered opaque, simi, translucent, single and multi-colored marbles were found, accordingly, in a drain pipe at the old Akro Agate plant. Some had previously thought were exclusive to Christensen Agate or MF Christensen. To this effect, the marble in question is not of the same type or relative to that dug-up group. I believe them to be pre 1928 Akro while others think they were MFC rejects. And at the same time, an exclusive Akro color; Cornelien is in that dug-up group and this "Mulberry" looks like one (Cornelian) too. So, this "Brick" stuff is a newer fad. Bricks are made of Oxblood and when beat up actually do look like real red brick. However, since that discovery, I have seen others of those that were used years ago, in the wild. I E. What's 'New' is being able to sort them. Here are some of those dug-up at that time. Only 1 with Oxblood, a turquoise slag. Otherwise, some of these were called "Bricks" by the dealers and diggers who sold em on ebay. .: BTW, there are 3 purple "Bricks" otherwise known as solids. Gray and different colors of solid blue and stuff.
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Forget that, bring it over, I'l sign it for free. 😁
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Yes, Chuck, I know that. I added to the black base patch because it and the rest are part of the new topic migration of The so-called Duch drain dig. Photo 3 is known as "experiential Oxblood" and photo 4 is known the same and yet it is not Oxblood. The missing shot of these would be clear oxblood patch without any other colors, and or no green. so, all together it makes a set of most of, if not all of the verities found in that dig.
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While I do not have a photo of my Black oxblood patch, like yours, and the same in clear without a green stripe, I am pretty sure that these photos along with your patch come close to almost everything special, particularly unusual or considered 'experiential' the French pipe yielded.
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So, as related to the aforementioned yellow and red CAC reject error, dug-up, replied, and Attached above, here's a blue and yellow I picked up at the same time, with similar reject qualities that make it exotic in the same way;
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Here's a strange slag. Years ago I'd thought the sparkling in it, in some of the white (Hard to see in old photo) where the red is surrounding white, is sparkling and in the lower right side's white. I know better these days. Yet I'd thought maybe it and the oxblood on the surface was, maybe, some kind of MFC special. These days I believe the sparkling is a coincidence caused when cooling and the oxblood is super rare but weird that is just faint. Sadly, it is not thick enough to stand out though. I mean, I had it for a few years before I'd noticed it and that was accidental. 😄 The photo's graphics are old but, if ya look a bit, the Hand-gathered 9 pattern (Lower left) is part of the wider ribbon (Centered position) of thin oxblood wrapped around the marble.
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Not quite Monday. This looks all too common but it's far from so; It's reversed! An Old Saint Mary's Marble King with a delicious, thick rich green core. Unlike normal white cores, the core is green and the patch and ribbon veneer is white. I do not know of or think another like it (Reversed) exists.