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The purple/ lavender is HG, the blue and green might be too.
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I prob should have said: My screen is not showing red in the OP's marble rather, it's a purple looking color, that's same as the one in the Germany ebay auction. And, it's a much darker purple than the norm usually with green.
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Pretty simple detection when stupid thief, scammers in ebay copies previous auctions and list as their own. Here's some cheap cat eyes for $3,200 AND there's 6 sets availed! You can buy all of these for only $19,200! Link: Old 6 no Peltier Banana cats eye Marbles 0.625''(2), 0.45'', 0.475''(2) ,0 .6'' | eBay. Ha, ha, ha! But wait, that's the tell, these scammers haven't a single clue. Here's their other marbles Link: | eBay Except all their stuff is just copy and paste, they don't know what is what. BEWARE!!
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Here it is, In eBay Germany as a Veiligglas: Große Veiligglas Murmel, 2,4 cm, opac, Vintage Marble, Holland Shooter, vintage | eBay
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No, Like most others I guess, I expected they'd be around for some time to come and did not give them much attention. That advertisement shows smaller examples but, I think it's a promotion that never materialized and or marketed. Apparently, the different sizes were made as the marbles in it are photographs, but I think, had they sold in the USA Collectors would have seen them back then and by now..
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They had/have their own rollers to make the marbles, shown here: Fiberglass manufacture, Owens-Corning, Toledo, Ohio. This is the machine that forms clear glass marbles in a plant of the Owens-Corning Fiberglass Corporation. Marbles are fed as raw material into electric furnaces from which they are drawn into fibers one-twentieth the size of human hair - PICRYL - Public Domain Media Search Engine Public Domain Search
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Whoever designed Vacor's Atmosphere colors insured that simulating CAC's colors were part of the palette. I mean, not all but the very first one I'd seen was a match for a Guinea on clear, except it was about an inch big. Somebody I'd known brought it to me to attempt to verify what it was, a CAC or what? Every color on it matched the colors on my Guineas and the pattern looked right too. If it wasn't so big, could fool a lot of people. I only picked up one Hand gathered Cyclone because the Lavender and yellow are a match for the same by CAC. Only took a photo (Attached below) of it inside this group over 20 years ago. I meant to ask Pete @ Land of marbles, if and or what he had a hand in the making of them since he had created and owned Mega marbles at the time but forgot. I had known and private friends with him since he'd first began collecting marbles. Regardless, I presume, because he was mad about CAC marbles, Vacor's Atmosphere marbles were of Pete's doing.
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Kind of looks like a verity of an China Imperial type of thing. Here's the same colors and pattern or style but better shape, and seller has mistaken it for a Veiligglas. It's in Germany eBay, Link here: Vintage Glasmurmel, Veiligglas, 4,5 cm, einnahtig, maschinenell hergestelltet | eBay
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The point is about variations of Vacors which is what's in your photo.
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Although I do not know which color set of red, yellow, orange and white this marble would be called, this marble looks like Vacor's colors and the ribbons do too. I think it's A version of Vacor's 'Twister' with some extra white. Twister:
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Sorry to say but none of the above. This was made to produce fiberglass. Many are found around railroad tracks and transfer stations which is also how some nonsensical stories linger on the net about these. . Made in the USA since the late 1930's and several other countries like China etc. where fiberglass is produced. Link: Fiberglass manufacture, Owens-Corning, Toledo, Ohio. Millions of carefully inspected glass marbles ready for remelting and forming into glass filaments. A single marble can be drawn into a continuous filament so fine that it could reach from New York to Philadelphia. More than one hundred filaments must be drawn together to make the finest workable strand - PICRYL - Public Domain Media Search Engine Public Domain Search
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Cheech Marin: "Dave's not here, man."
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Tiny surface bubbles in/on this is what a reheated marble looks like
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None look like a CAC peach slag. Not only because all three shown in this topic do not have a CAC or hand gathered pattern; the Christensen Agate Peach is not yellow or orangish, it's Pinkish.
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Google points to this site: Archaeological and Historical Survey of the Lake Thonotosassa By-Pass Canal Right-of-Way in Hillsborough County, Florida (usf.edu) You'll need to photograph 3-4 angles of this glass ball to get an estimation of the time frame it was made. If it's 100 years or more old, then there are specific manufacture methods that change near the mid too late 1920's. In the 1930's and through today the pattern and design can be dated or approximated within a period of reason. If older than 120 years but not approximate 160 it may be a bit out of round. Obviously, Glass was not made in Indian camps or anywhere on the American content, at least until the 1600's so, it would not be an Aboriginal Indian object. Where there's the slightest color a pattern exists.
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We've one Blenko 5815-S Decanter in Tangerine/Amberina @16.8" Not exactly something we collect, but this orange and the way it's blended was too hot to pass up over 20 years ago for 20 bucks..
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You do have seams on this Annie, you're expecting things in a handmade or cane-cut German glass marble you'd picked up searching google and relative's to your gramps age. Thing is, Cats like yours, from Japan, Mexico and China were made in tremendous production from the mid 1950's and continue in one form or another today. There's no limit to the amount of cats that remain, also because kids didn't like them in the 60's. So, many, and at a time when kids were to stop playing as passionately as they had in the 1950's and below. You would not be alone with an opinion that you had a toy or collectible that your grandparents may have had as a kid. In antiques and toys, this is a regularity. In fact, the glass marbles that were believed to belong to Ann Frank during WWII that were inside a museum dedicated to her, had some cat eyes which were not made during WWII.
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I am pretty sure this is a Vitro green.
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And yet another pelt name I never heard of. Turns out I have two of these brown guys, one that's dark, same as topic but does not return any red and another, much darker brown, but flashlight spot through it is red, missing one ribbon as that side is very thin, go figure.
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These do look similar, but not so sure they'll fit the 'Wadded into to a ball' construction. That is a term I came up with very long ago, whenever this site was called: 'Say your Piece'. Albeit even so I did not exactly like it as I'd also thought it a little derogatory. Regardless, it seemed to work for folks to help see and understand the meandering string or ribbon in wire pulls and different swirl verities as an unbroken string from the cut off end to the other. In transparent, if you concentrate on it you may see it while with more solid it can be difficult which takes a good bit of imagination. So, in yours, I cannot be sure that's what's happening as this and others do not appear to have the same unbroken ribbon that mine do. It looks like there are too many cut areas but those may just have folded there and diving into it. Maybe the lighter colors show better and you can follow the ribbon? And once you get the knack for how to find it, then maybe began to do it in more opaques verities that are mostly white or reverse base.
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Humm, not sure why this post popped up, but while I here and it wasn't answered completely:, Yes CAC Cobra/Cyclone can have 1 or two seams and the answer is pretty simple for the colors and its ribbons that are streams; modern and fixed verses random. CAC is similar to a slag. @Nantucketdink nailed it: A Vacor Sunflower. These are CAC with single and two seams: Vacor Sunflower: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vacor-alamo-toy-marbles-sunflower-box-1814645430
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Been a lot of fisty-cuffs back and forth over the lack of clear and I think the: "If there's no clear, it aint" usually throws the biggest punch.
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It was put away long ago but I checked, never removed as the mesh bag is loose at bottom and staples not flat, they are round standard type. Yet, my point in post is about the types of swirl, other than color, the white in the marbles is 'Wadded into a ball' type of swirl. For that, while I cannot see well enough through @Dave 13's bag they look to be the same type of swirl.
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True that. It's very difficult for the newish looking bags and labels out there to be sure if Alox made what. I stumbled on this bag, it think it was Amana 2002 when I bought it. I had some misgivings regarding these types of bags, but they are a little different than the mixed swirls like yours. Sorted with the 3 different colors, Shades of amber, blue and green that are about the same as slags were made in. The total of each color in the bag is almost equal as a set or purposely filed bag would be. The amount of white in every marble is just about the same that qualifies as a pattern in all. I see some just like mine in your bag and those with different colors appear to have the same pattern or flow of measured, via their gob feeder or automatic system, amount of glass too. To that effect and potential time frame and or who made, the majority of yours look the same. And, those that may appear like a Ravenswood might be only different looking because it could merely be reverse, with more white than transparent. In terms of base glass, it would not surprise me one bit, and potentially a simple thing for study in al types of marbles; it's the only difference, that more or mostly white means it's the base and those mostly transparent is the reverse feeding of the stream.