Jeff54

Peltier x2. thumbs down on Muddy. Pelt 'Muddy' is an opaque-simi, light would not shine clear through and base color could be described, although not exactly, as a khaki color. The base is kind of tan and kind of grey; khaki color tone. I have three, 2 in 5/8" and 1 in 7/8" that I hunted my pile for to insure the color in them. They are, moreover, an ACME Realer style, others refer as Baseballs which would not be considered a Rainbo or Champion JR like yours is. ..

Well heck. Speaking of MK aventurine and not an attempt to trump the MK card because I planned to add this one since last week. Dug-up from Paden City site, this one jumps out in sunlight. I forget but may have been dubbed as a MK Green comet

Yeah, some kind of reject as if it was a dug-up at a factory. Whatever those dark slivers and stuff is, is really strange and not exactly chips or moons from play. Something extra ordinary while made as I've never seen or can imagine what caused that stuff. It looks like the brown was burning and when hit the rollers, junk got in while being shaped..

One of my favorite Akro HG dug-ups. Transparent blackish with a bright lime green.

Ah oh, as if it is not bad enough that Peltier made hand gathered slags, no different than MFC, Akro and CAC. There goes the good ol' 'Peltier always have a feathered pattern' and the other slags that are not hand gathered are Akro deal. At least one thing is for sure: Whenever Artificial intelligence, AI takes over the universe, there's not a chance in h. ,adding the West Virginian swirls and others, it can create a complete and accurate marble identification guide. What will happen if asked to do it and cannot finish? Go into a loop and crash? Will marble collectors save mankind from the Cyborg?! 😆

Yeah, pretty neat yet, not so easy 'Cherry picking' as it's not the whole story. 20 years ago, somebody, I forget but doesn't matter who. These are train wreck marbles. An entire case, {I forget but like 30 or 50 boxes in the case?} was found which was beaten pretty badly. Surprisingly, as one many not expect, each box was wrapped, folded with tissue papers at the factory. Go figure? However, the train wreck must have been awfully bad and sent the case flying or tumbling across the ground because, the majority of the marbles were cracked, chipped or broken. So, cherry picking was the only way to get an entire box filled with good ones. Otherwise, if you can imagine, sorting through 100 marbles, mint in the boxes, would have been totally awesome. Yet, unfortunately, had they not been so beat, I would not have Cherry-picked em.😉

What do you get if you cherry pick the best out of 5 boxes?

Yup, this is a 'Blue blood' While I do not own one myself and it's been several years since I've seen them or desired to, I haven't forgotten as they were on my list to acquire.

How interesting, I have not seen that Cornelian box before. However, these too were dug-up whenever the hand gathered slags and opaques were found at the Akro site. I had already owned some that are identical to those in that box and very difficult to see traces of being hand gathered. However, from the dug-ups I able to identify mine that came from the wild, of which, I'd always had as questioned if Akro? The topic marble in question is not one and IDK why this 'ButtCrack terminology is used so frequently as if every fold is a Jabo because that happens in most any swirl. Regardless, the OP's kind-of looks more like a Champion yet, it could be any old common red shooter too. That Butt crack usage on Jabos, is such a derogatory term applied in the 90's whenever collectors would not touch brand new Jabo marbles. I was not enthusiastic with Jabo my self, at the time, and was giving kids handfuls out of a 40-50 pound factory box, but as in butthead, just because they did not interest me at all, did not, would not adhere to such offensive terminology that a certain collector here, (not fire, Rick) would use all the time. . I mean, well, yes, some of those Jabo's do resemble it yet, it's a fold and all kinds of company's marbles have folds.

I was wondering how they held the rods into the steam without getting burnet. Thanks Steph and the marble making crew.

I should clarify iridescence growth. You're not going to find it like ancient iridescence after about 50 or 100 years rather under the right conditions it will produce an oily looking surface. Otherwise, it takes a thousand years or more and certain chemicals native to the areas to etch glass and grow. Whenever Tiffany imitated it, in the late 1880s or so, ancient glass, King Tut, Greek and Roman times and all that was super popular. The ancient glass that wasn't broke remained stable with and without irradiance. That's why test tubes and many medical types of glass is used, unless there's a unique compound in it, Acid can't penetrate it. {Correction, I knew better than that, Acid can etch Glass. IDK, just the other day something on U-dope-Tube, said it could not and was why used for medical glass and test tube in science.}

Glass doesn't get beat up like that even if 100's of years buried. It can grow an iridescence which if you have not seen that in your digging it's of Tiffiney's early claim to fame by imitating ancient glass iridescence. However, I have seen many pieces and bottles begin to grow it in as little as 50 years. In fact I have several German Handmade Cane pieces, dug-up at old factory sites that grew it just like old bottles I've dug up in the past. Yet buried, some being well over 100 years, are just as they were before trashed. I have 100's of dug-up marbles and surprising enough, they don't get beat as one might think. Not by dirt and miscellaneous rocks, nor winter's underground frost, frozen. Marbles, for the most part, get scratched when falling and swept on the floors at factory and scrapped while being trashed at dumps or rolling around at waste sites, otherwise, if mint when buried, it will usually be dug-up that way or very, very minimal damage. I don't see that or mica rather, simply a couple of beat marbles. Try putting them in water to see if anything is visible.

Looks like colors that match Vitro's Yellow Jackets.

By the way, with all those clambroths in a collection like this, you can count that, they are likely made by the same person who did the fake Guineas. I agree with others, the guy's a crook, anything he's selling will be overvalued and graded.

Carl Fisher has been making nice polymer clay copies, IDK close to 20 years: Carl Fisher Marbles Home Page

Yeah. This may be tough to understand until you've owned Guineas or spent enough time studying them, but I could see what's wrong right off because there's no flow in any of them. Then checking for single or two cut lines and I'm done. It used to be easier by just knowing the colors and blends in them until fakes caught on.

Do not always have an S, but it's a CAC no doubt.

Yes, the left is a 'Golden boy'. Jill Spencer Dug some up and named it. The right is as Chad says. It's strange and doesn't fit in anything I know either, It may be an oddball, perhaps something Jill dug-up, otherwise?

They are, like Vacor, Japanese and Chinese and or Imperial marbles, not very collectible because of the abundance that are made and imported across the globe.

I don't know who made that cat, but as a young kid I had a blue rose MK Cat Eye. It was long gone by late 63 after we'd moved to a new home. Whenever Jill was digging MK's I got another in her dirty boxes. You got to figure the odds of that happening? Dark Blue cat that swirled and it twists up to where it looks like a rose. Unfortunately, I can't photograph it yet, it's two dark to get the clear to show properly, but it's on my list for when I can. At the time I had my first blue rose, it was shortly after this movie came out: Thief of Baghdad (aka The Blue Rose)1961 Steve Reeves & Giorgia Moll. So, that was pretty special. I believe they're error Cats yet cool too.

I might need to figure out how to get my stupid Camra to do better B/C I might run out of old low graphics photos of Peltier's by next month. In the meantime, here's a purple w/red-orange fo ya'll .

Based on this angle of it in your photos, I will stay my two cents as that looks too much like a Vacor:

For the broken blue line and whatever color that black looking line is, I think you got yourself a Vacor.

Names of marbles were probably reginal too fire. While it's been over a half century since I played with them as a young kid as early as 1958, and no white patch and ribbon, Marble Kings in So Calif. were the favored, I am pretty sure the few that were around, we'd call corkscrews. Yet I have slept a few time since then, ha, ha.

I cannot see the right, with that light blue, well enough to count the veins and I have not seen that color of blue before. (It's not like I search for them though) But the left with the purple-ish blending is for sure MK. It's in my group shot and I have 3-4 of those, at least one was dug at Paden City. I also have a couple of knarly 3/4" that have a streak of yellow in the center. It's a blend of MK's Spiderman blue and red which is why that lighter blue, on the right, is different. Not to leave out, they typically blend in verses separate the colors like that. Albiet, while my Red and green (cat-eye Watermelon) is red and the edges are green, but not floating away from veins like that., Yet, if there's only 4 veins (The Vitro blended is 5 veins) then, B/C my shooters with a streak of yellow,,,, (Yellow streak in center, at the cross and some in the veins too, that makes them pop! Go figure?) why not MK and that light blue too?