MARBLEMISER Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Hi All Don't know if this will spark any interest, but I have a few of each Pelt Golden Rebels & what has been Called a Golden Bee> Not my names! I was pondering the similarities & the differences Also the $$ value of one to the other. The pics are & Values are from E-bay. I have seen MORE Golden Rebles for sale than the Golden Bee's The $$ value on The GR is almost 2X that of the Golden Bee. They have similar coloration & construction. Price range GR $480.00 $405.00, $560.00 On the GB's $180.00 to $380.00 What are your thought's? And let's see some Pics of your's. And values if you care to share?? Thanks marblemiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Chamberlain Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I don't have the foggiest as to current market values on these two but I've a thought or two on the price discrepancies. Sometimes there not being enough of a marble out there to begin to generate competitive interest will hold it down price-wise. Also, I believe, the Golden Rebel has the advantage of a long-established serious collecting interest (Castle & Peterson recognition early on). Therein lies the disparity me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semdot Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I have seen more golden rebels than bees too. Bees might be more rare but I just consider them wanna-be rebels. Supermen and superboys have a similar pattern, rarity, and price relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTAndrea Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I've never heard of a Golden Bee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migbar Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I never have either, but whatever sells, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feelnmarbleous Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I have heard of Golden Bees, doesn't Craig own one to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARBLEMISER Posted September 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Like I said " not my name ". I think that Golden Ruby Bee was the full name, I heard or read somewhere? I don't think whatever sells fits here. I'm not selling anything. These mibs have already been sold & some one bought them. My original question was which is harder to find? And the price difference?? Thanks to all for the interest> Where are the pics? marblemiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migbar Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Sorry, Ray, my mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feelnmarbleous Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Ray, i know my short time at collecting doesn't count for much as far as experience but since ive been collecting, ive seen more Golden Rebels than Golden Bees. Not sure on Value though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marblemansion Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Kevin - what in the world is that cat doing???? uhhhh.... dont answer that. As for Golden anythings - I cant post a photo of mine cuz I aint got one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feelnmarbleous Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Kevin - what in the world is that cat doing???? uhhhh.... dont answer that. As for Golden anythings - I cant post a photo of mine cuz I aint got one. He's chilln Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinemades Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I have heard of Ruby Bees which is a Red Bee with aventurine. Red aventurine would be much rarer than black. Regardless, even if Golden Rebels are easier to find than the blended types, they are well known and would bring higher prices than the blended ones imho. Golden Rebels are quite rare themselves. Sami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I have seen more golden rebels than bees too. Bees might be more rare but I just consider them wanna-be rebels. Supermen and superboys have a similar pattern, rarity, and price relationship. seems a good analogy. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I'm just not gettin' the comparison to a golden rebel, since that term makes sense -- as a rebel where the usual white base has been replaced by gold/yellow. But since a bee is by definition gold/yellow, what the heck is a golden bee? Or a golden ruby bee? I have a red or ruby bee (yellow base with trans. red stripes instead of opaque black stripes), no aventurine. What the heck is it, then? Thanks, Ann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Another case of terminology getting in the way imho. Folks are getting hung up on the word "bee" instead of talking about the mibs Ray is thinking of. Semdot focused on it - on the mibs that is - 6 ribbon mibs with the distinct red and black vs. 4 ribbon mibs with the red and black running together. ,,, or something like that ,,, if I understand correctly ,,, [insert favorite humble statement] ,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feelnmarbleous Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 I was always under the impression that Golden Bee's where in the Rainbo family not the NLR's....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Another case of terminology getting in the way imho. Folks are getting hung up on the word "bee" instead of talking about the mibs Ray is thinking of. Semdot focused on it - on the mibs that is - 6 ribbon mibs with the distinct red and black vs. 4 ribbon mibs with the red and black running together. There! Not terminology getting in the way. Undefined terminology getting in the way! To me, bee = yellow. Nobody said a bee is six ribbons or 4 ribbons, or red & black running together or red and black being separate. You have to say these things! I'm slow! Thanks, Ann PS - so what do I have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 sorry. I'm not keeper of the pelt definitions. not even totally sure I have the question down correctly, pelt ribbon configs being so highly variable. but ,,, the word "bee" really did throw a kink in the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migbar Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Ann, I think a yellow base with transparent red ribbons is a ruby bee, don't it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted September 1, 2009 Report Share Posted September 1, 2009 Yep, ruby bee is what I was told, when I got it - - - - Ann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARBLEMISER Posted September 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Sheesh! The bands on the GR are black aventurine & red on a golden or a yellow base. The bands on the GB are black & red aventurine mixed on a yellow or a golden base. Either or is hard to find IMHO. The GR are sold more often on the bay, than the GB. still no pics? Sorry for the mix up. I'll keep my wondering's to myself from now on> thanks for confusing me!! marblemiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feelnmarbleous Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Sheesh! The bands on the GR are black aventurine & red on a golden or a yellow base. The bands on the GB are black & red aventurine mixed on a yellow or a golden base. Either or is hard to find IMHO. The GR are sold more often on the bay, than the GB. still no pics? Sorry for the mix up. I'll keep my wondering's to myself from now on> thanks for confusing me!! marblemiser If you already had a strong opinion on the matter why even ask ? I do not see how someone could get confused from a very simple thread like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinemades Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 And why would you post a frustrated qoute when people are trying to help you with your question? Sami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 And why would you post a frustrated qoute when people are trying to help you with your question? Sami And understand what you're talking about? Not everyone here is an expert in everything -- Thanks for the clarifications -- Ann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARBLEMISER Posted September 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Hi All Don't know if this will spark any interest, but I have a few of each Pelt Golden Rebels & what has been Called a Golden Bee> Not my names! I was pondering the similarities & the differences Also the $$ value of one to the other. The pics are & Values are from E-bay. I have seen MORE Golden Rebles for sale than the Golden Bee's The $$ value on The GR is almost 2X that of the Golden Bee. They have similar coloration & construction. Price range GR $480.00 $405.00, $560.00 On the GB's $180.00 to $380.00 What are your thought's? And let's see some Pics of your's. And values if you care to share?? Thanks marblemiser The pic on the top left. Is a Golden Ruby Bee. Or as marblealan called it a RUBY REBEL. THe top right is a GOLDEN REBEL> I quit. thanks for your interest marblemiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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