BuckEye Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Well I just acquired this marble and upon further inspection I believe it to be a CAC opaque guinea. It is just under 5/8 and has a baby blue base with splotches of electric orange, areas of red with brown streaks and areas of a brownish red mix. It is on a single seam. The color does not run like a striped opaque and is very difficult to photo, so the red areas look like the electric orange in some photos so i took a few with and without flash. check it out please and all opinions are welcome! Oh and check out the "wolf's head" in the last pic Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckEye Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 more views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn691500 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 no such animal,,, nice try,,, but its called a striped opaque,, nice mib,,, bj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Agree . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clydetul62 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 There is such animal. They are named striped opaque guineas because the patterns on them resemble the patterns on a guinea. Yours is borderline. In the first pic you see the splotches resemble a guinea in pattern. The rest is more of a reg striped opaque. Hence the reason I say borderline. The only 2 colors I have seen them in is this red/blue and red/green. Way VHTF. Block's book has a couple examples of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I'm not persuaded that there's any reason to tack the name "guinea" onto this type of striped opaque. I don't think Block really gives any adequate reason for doing so . . . Having that mib and calling it a CAC striped opaque -- especially calling it mine --would make me VERY happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckEye Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 That is the reason I referred to it as a guinea, from blocks book p.133. the colors match. It is obviously CAC, I dont have any other striped opaques that splotch like this one does, maybe because it is a single seam. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clydetul62 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Block didnt name the marble. It was already in use when Block took the pics. Collectors named this because of the patttern like a guinea. It is really a striped opaque in general but a variety. Sort of like a hybrid of some other type of marble and company. You ever see a pelt liberty/rebel, an MK spidermelon? This is what I am referring to a variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARBLEMISER Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I was told by the barber in Cambridge ( can't remember his name? ) that the second from the left was an Opaque Guniea/ FWIW Thanks marblemiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn691500 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 simply a play on words to increase the value of ones mibs imho,,, Christensen named the worlds best Guinea to certain type,,, it would be hard to call any guinea a hybrid with all the colors,maybe an added pink or whatever color that isnt in their runs, if anyhing a hybrid stiped opaque could be possible if you knew every different combination of the stiped opaques,,, bj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Agree with bigjohn - - - just an opinion, but to me the word "guinea" is very tightly linked to (#1) the variety of the characteristic colors on the surface (the lavender, light green, blue, and on and on), whether they're sploched or striped or swirled or some combo of both, and (#2) the transparent base (of whatever color, clear, amber, cobalt). I'd be willing to think of a marble as an opaque guinea if it had the same characteristic colors/distribution of colors as a "traditional" guinea . . . just on an opaque base. To me the marble in question is a lovely two-color CAC striped opaque with a bit more action in the striping than usual. I'd think of it (and others like it) as a "fancy striped opaque" way before I'd go to the G word . . . Even more, however, I wish it were mine! Nice, nice mib! Sob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Marbles Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Neat CAC Craig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckEye Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 ok so its a striped opaque with a little pizazz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanoak Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 "Opaque guinea" I owe everyone an apology. That term is my fault. I complain louder than most about the silly name game as many of you already know. About 6 years ago at New Philly show I saw those and one with a yellow base. The first thing I said was wow they look like a guinea on opaque glass and jokingly called them opaque guineas. It got repeated and you know the rest of the story. If I can get some good pics of mine including the yellow base I'll post them, although i think they are pictured in one of Blocks books. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Chamberlain Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Actually, I don't believe the introduction of a 'hybrid' name for this particular marble with its borderline (striped opaque/guinea) characteristics was financial subterfuge at all. It was innocently coined as a natural expression for a striped opaque with extra pizzaz. Clyde has been quite modest in his explanation. Now I am absolutely sure that the typical eBay seller with hyping on his mind would latch onto the name 'guinea' to enhance the value of whatever he was selling but as a word used to describe this unusual effect in a striped opaque I think it is entirely innocent. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 ok so its a striped opaque with a little pizazz! Maybe even more than a little! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckEye Posted January 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 I know it is frowned on to give prices, but what should I expect something like this to bring at a show/trading? Book value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semdot Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 This has very nice colors and pattern. If it were mint+ I would expect over $100, maybe over $150. Near mint 8.6, maybe it's worth $20. In good or low near mint, say in $5 to $10 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Chamberlain Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Weighing in on this one again I don't have the foggiest idea as to value; these marbles are out of my league but although I stick with my support of Clyde in his history re. the evolution of the guinea characteristic given to certain striped opaques this one does not measure up to that in appearance. Not to say that it isn't worthy though. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckEye Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Thanks for all the opinions my marble peeps Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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