hdesousa Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 This is one of the most common early medals out there. Few are dated, perhaps one in 3 or 4. I have only been able to find this medal dated 1927, 1928 and 1929. Anyone have any knowledge of other dates, or any other general information about this medal? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Reverse showing dates. 1927, 1928, 1929. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triker Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 WOW! Awesome Hansel! I have only 1 regional! But it is in the original box! bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 Genuine medals or "mimics?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBlock Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 These are genuine. The dating ends with the Great Depression, so I'm sure that has something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted July 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 These are genuine. The dating ends with the Great Depression, so I'm sure that has something to do with it. Now, that's interesting. Did they stop dating because of the additional cost? Are you also saying that undated examples of this medal are not from before 1927? I think I have other types dated through the depression though. I'll have a look..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBlock Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 I've never really given it a lot of thought. I suppose I should pull the medals I have out and lay them out in chronological order and see what kind of story they might tell. I can't imagine it was cost during the Depression. I know there are bronze and silver examples of the shield type from the mid 1930s. I'm not really an expert on the history of the Wildwood Tournament, maybe Debra can pipe in if she reads this board. But, the 1927-1929 octagonal ones are labeled United States Marble Shooting Championship Tournament, the mid 1930s plaque shield type are labeled National Marble Tournament and the late 1930s round shield type are also labeled National Marble Tournament. So, maybe there may be a difference between the US Marble Championship and the NMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted July 7, 2011 Report Share Posted July 7, 2011 I've sent out an SOS to Debra but looking around the web it sounds like they're the same event. I've never really given it a lot of thought. I suppose I should pull the medals I have out and lay them out in chronological order and see what kind of story they might tell. That's an interesting way to put it. Guess there could be a lot of reasons for a change. Company went out of business, or they felt like a new style, or they changed the tournament name formally, or ....? But it would definitely be cool to see a chronological progression of medals and see that story .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 Is there an actual gap in the dates, as suggested by the above posts? From 1929 to the mid 1930s? I know nothing about the tournaments, but it would make sense if there wern't any (major ones) in the aftermath of the crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted July 8, 2011 Report Share Posted July 8, 2011 The tournament which is now held at Wildwood, NJ started out in Atlantic City, NJ in 1923. It has been held every year since then except for 1944 and 1945. It moved from Atlantic City to Ocean City, NY in 1929. Then Wildwood in 1937. Then inland to Cleveland, OH for 1943 and 1946. Back to Wildwood in 1947. Then Asbury Park, NJ in 1949. Then Wildwood from 1960 to the present except for 1976, when it was in Jackson, NJ. If my information is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeyecollector Posted July 10, 2011 Report Share Posted July 10, 2011 My marble tournament collection is not as complete as Hansel’s but there are some conclusions that I can make: a) The dated shield medals were no longer made after the start of WW-II (1941’s exist.) The brass Barry Pink Marble King Champion shield was not dated but looks to be from the 50’s. Within his collection of medals Hansel has a group of the known reproductions - most are stamped “sterling.” There seemed to be two national marble tournaments. A smaller one sponsored by the VFW with a final tournament at changing locations around the country. And, another larger tournament frequently sponsored by local newspapers with the championship usually played in New Jersey (Steph has the exact locations and dates.) The Great Depression did not kill these tournaments or the interest in marble shooting. Looks to me like paved streets, gravel playgrounds and air conditioning had a negative impact on marble playing. Kids at that time did not need funding for a coach, uniform, glove, bat or a play schedule to knuckle down any time a group gathered. Big Indian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgt Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Here my grouping of medals. I suspect that the first medal in the first row may not be "genuine", just a feeling I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgt Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Second picture of the reverse side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne45 Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Hi Hansel, I've seen dated examples from 1924, 1925, 1927, 1928 1929, 1930, 1931 and have the years of 1924, 1925, 1927 and 1929. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted August 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 Wayne, Are the pre-1927 medals you have the same design I have pictured in post #1 and #2? regards, Hansel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne45 Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Hansel, Yes they are. Regards, Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Are the pre 29 medals stamped or is the date part of the original strike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne45 Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Hi, They are part of the original strike. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted September 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Hansel, Yes they are. Regards, Wayne Wayne, Could you please post pics of the pre-1927 medals of that design? They're rare. regards, HJansel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne45 Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Hi Hansel, I've sent two jpgs: 1 1924, 2 1945, and 1 1927. Regards, Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 NICE!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne45 Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 Hi Hansel, The corect dates are: 1 1924, 2 1925, and 1 1927. Regards, Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted September 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 Hi Hansel, The corect dates are: 1 1924, 2 1925, and 1 1927. Regards, Wayne Very nice, thanks! regards, Hansel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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