Ebay Plug 2000 Year Old Roman Marble

[jeroen]

Hello marble collectors,

I have put on ebay a very rare 2000 year old Roman marble:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-year-old-unique-1-5-16-inch-Roman-glass-marble-/320904710209?pt=Marbles&hash=item4ab7694841

I am curious what you think about it.

And also two Joseph coat marbles:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/mint-13-16-inch-Joseph-Coat-marble-with-super-colors-/320904725991?pt=Marbles&hash=item4ab76985e7

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wet-mint-large-1-7-32-inch-Joseph-Coat-marble-with-stunning-colors-/320904739852?pt=Marbles&hash=item4ab769bc0c

I was surpriced that the orange Joseph coat received such a high bid so quickly, and the other one, which is in my eyes equaly beautiful, stays behind so much. I thought they have about the same value

Am I totally wrong with them when it comes to the value?

Regards,

Jeroen

[raynsandy]

size between the 2 joeys coats makes the difference in desirability. Keep in mind that ebay is an auction and doesnt always reflect true values.

[lstmmrbls]

Many(if not most) ebay bidders also use a sniping program so early bids are rarely a good idea of what the sale will end at. To me it just means the bidder on the one marble does not know about sniping programs

[clydetul62]

On the ancient marble. These are very hard to find. I bugged the ancient dealers at coin shows for year before they finally came through. One is layered with the outside layered on the base making 2 snakes. The second is different where they pushed rods of color through the base. They are more of a conversation piece as they are not striking beautiful.

[jeroen]

Hello again,

It seems that size is indeed very important with the Joseph coats. I have posted two new marbles on ebay. One large Joseph Coat/ onionskin cross over, and two smaller Joseph Coat marbles in blue glass. The blue glass is very rare, but the bidding stays behind with the larger ones.

Here are the links for the ohter two marbles:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-large-1-5-16-inch-mint-Joseph-Coat-marble-with-unusual-color-combination-/320907548913?pt=Marbles&hash=item4ab79498f1

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-very-rare-blue-glass-Joseph-Coat-marbles-/320907555187?pt=Marbles&hash=item4ab794b173

Regards,

Jeroen

[bigjohn691500]

i hope you dont mind but i sure would like these pics in the MC folders for years down the road to discuss,, many times ive used the search engine for research only to find the dreaded red x,,bj

[clydetul62]

Here are some more. The first pic is from Bert Cohen. The second and third pics are my own marbles. The multi colored one has color rods "pushed" thru the glass. The second the green and the yellow are overlaid on the glass. The design are 2 snakes. It took me years bugging the ancient artifact dealers I know before one finally came up with these two. It's easy to get glass beads from that time period. Enjoy. Go ahead and take my pics for future reference. They are good teaching tools.

[JVVmarbles]

The Roman marble had 77 watchers according to watcheditem.com so I was expecting a LOT of action in the last few seconds...but nothing happened! Weird!!!

[hdesousa]

Here are some more. The first pic is from Bert Cohen. The second and third pics are my own marbles. The multi colored one has color rods "pushed" thru the glass. The second the green and the yellow are overlaid on the glass. The design are 2 snakes. It took me years bugging the ancient artifact dealers I know before one finally came up with these two. It's easy to get glass beads from that time period. Enjoy. Go ahead and take my pics for future reference. They are good teaching tools.

Clyde,

These are not round enough to be playing marbles. Probably beads that have not yet lost their virginity.

Hansel

[clydetul62]

They are actually pretty round. No more so than some moden 20th century marbles. I do have a different one made with same overlay style but flat on both poles. Defenitely that one would have been a bead as I have a whole string on smaller scale. To call mine a holeless bead would be same as calling Jeroen's a bead as well.

[lstmmrbls]

Who can say any of the old Roman glass balls were used for playing any games that we would consider marble games.

[hdesousa]

They are actually pretty round. No more so than some moden 20th century marbles. I do have a different one made with same overlay style but flat on both poles. Defenitely that one would have been a bead as I have a whole string on smaller scale. To call mine a holeless bead would be same as calling Jeroen's a bead as well.

I was trying to be funny without using a :-)

Jeroen's looks like a piece of glass cutoff from the glob at the end of a punty rod before the artist turns the cane (or gather?) into art.

Don't know what that glass dingleberry is called, but there is a proper name for it.

Your marbles are particularly colorful. I've bought a few black/white dome shaped and round ones sold as game pieces.

Two lots of ancient marbles were sold at Christies in 1993, relatively inexpensively: (Bert Cohen should still have the catalog and pictures)

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/mosaic-and-polychrome-glass-marbles-3042246-details.aspx?intobjectid=3042246

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/mosaic-and-polychrome-glass-marbles-3042247-details.aspx?intobjectid=3042247

here're a couple examples of game pieces with pics:

http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/lot/ancient-glass-beads-and-gaming-pieces-circa-1519889-details.aspx?pos=2&intObjectID=1519889&sid=&page=23

http://www.crumiller.com/chess/chess_pages/chess_ancient_pieces.htm

And of course there are fakes. Artificially ageing glass is relatively easy to do, I'm told.

[jlmoriarty]

"Who can say any of the old Roman glass balls were used for playing any games that we would consider marble games."

Me. But I forget.

(smiley face also omitted)

[lstmmrbls]

I heard no conviction when you said it