Rooneydog Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Thanks for looking. Am I correct in classifying this as start of the cane, there appears to be no pontil and each of the swirls start at different points inside the "pole". Also pic of pontil end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 It was a little confusing to see you say, "there appears to be no pontil," since obviously the marble has a pointil. I take it you mean that you're not seeing the roughness you might expect on one of the ends. I don't have much technical knowledge about handmades so I'm just moving this to the main chat forum and hope someone else will help out with observations. In the meantime, it might be helpful if you added an photo of the whole marble. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooneydog Posted June 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Apologies for my terminology. Full marble below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Sooooo, that view looks like a normal marble. Wouldn't call it start or end of cane. But the view of one of the ends is pretty interesting, with that little loop in it. Hopefully someone with more insight than I can cast light on it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 It is a cane-cut marble. There is nothing at either cut off point that strikes me as unusual. (Unfortunately, I have chosen to remove this content due to unchecked behaviors by others on this board. My apologies to those who will not benefit from it in the future.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooneydog Posted June 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 It is a cane-cut marble. There is nothing at either cut off point that strikes me as unusual. Thanks for the reply. So you are saying the pontils have been ground and polished (at one end) and it is common for the swirls to cease before the end ? also to have a band that splits between 1 and 2 parts when it really should be 4 to match the rest of the marble, poor workmanship ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 It's a nice marble with pontils that were done by someone who cared about their work and didn't make a sloppy cut of it. The bands on these are almost never 100% symmetrical, and they don't really reflect on the workmanshop of the marble maker. The bands are already in the rod of glass when the marble maker gets it, so it is what it is. It was handmade 100 years ago... it's amazing that it's as nice as it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooneydog Posted June 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 It's a nice marble with pontils that were done by someone who cared about their work and didn't make a sloppy cut of it. The bands on these are almost never 100% symmetrical, and they don't really reflect on the workmanshop of the marble maker. The bands are already in the rod of glass when the marble maker gets it, so it is what it is. It was handmade 100 years ago... it's amazing that it's as nice as it is! Thanks for explaining cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted June 7, 2015 Report Share Posted June 7, 2015 On 6/7/2015 at 6:08 AM, Rooneydog said: Thanks for the reply. So you are saying the pontils have been ground and polished (at one end) and it is common for the swirls to cease before the end ? also to have a band that splits between 1 and 2 parts when it really should be 4 to match the rest of the marble, poor workmanship ? (Unfortunately, I have chosen to remove this content due to unchecked, uncorrected behaviors by others on this board. My apologies to those who will not benefit from this thread in the future) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooneydog Posted June 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Excellent photos - thanks Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 It's a nice looking marble. I think Alan's second to last pic might explain what you see on yours, as the cane is "necked down" it's pulled and drawn away from the marble so some of the inner threads/bands (like in your marble) don't always make it perfectly to the pontil. It can be exaggerated more on some examples vs. others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 It's a nice marble with pontils that were done by someone who cared about their work and didn't make a sloppy cut of it. The bands on these are almost never 100% symmetrical, and they don't really reflect on the workmanshop of the marble maker. The bands are already in the rod of glass when the marble maker gets it, so it is what it is. It was handmade 100 years ago... it's amazing that it's as nice as it is! I don't disagree but have to think that some good marble makers paired up with some of the good rod/cane makers and as a team they could pump out a higher percentage of 'nicer' quality marbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 (Unfortunately, I have chosen to remove this content due to unchecked, uncorrected behaviors by others on this board. My apologies to those who will not benefit from this thread in the future) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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