Steph Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Which marbles were the Canaries? Examples of Canaries or any of the other marbles on the list would be nice. Seen many of them separately in many threads. Could be fun to bring them all together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 While waiting for Canaries .... Opal Agates box -- are they Opal Agates inside? (I think I may have a better, non-Ebay photo of this box, so I might replace these pix when I find it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migbar Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I had never seen the above document, and hadn't heard of the canaries before, but I suspect they may have been yellow tinged milkies as in the box above... I have long wondered what the opal agates are, and I am still not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I wonder if canaries are related to those yellow almost-pincher-like Pelt marbles that I believe Art Jones called "smileys?" When he ran into a trove of them he made up a few small boxes of them (with a bag). He was generous enough to send me a box that he initially had kept for himself, but it doesn't have the made-up label on it. They are a real oddity. Pretty sure somebody here has to have a pic . . . I think he told me he sold them in Ottowa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Supposedly Gino Biffany had some marbles labeled Canaries ... not necessarily in a company box ... maybe just in a compartment. Anyone know what those looked like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Once upon a time, Outofround posted these, calling them Canaries ... but these look later than 1929 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaMarble Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I have a Smileys box at home - I'll try to grab a photo tonight and put it up. I am also unsure of what a Peltier Canary would look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollyestr2 Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Steph: American Machine-Made Marbles describes Canaries as one-color translucent Peltier marbles - "The National Milkie is similar to the Akro Agate Moonie, and the Canary is similar but has a slight greenish tint." A yellowish tint would make more sense to me but they got that info someplace - ?? Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I must have read that in AMMM --- years ago. So hard to keep the info together, but someone usually comes through with a reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfisher Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Are those in the pic above pelt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I have a Smileys box at home - I'll try to grab a photo tonight and put it up. Great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Since Nancy mentioned the Milkies, here is a picture for comparison (from Morphy's) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast_dave Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 The smiley's are canary yellow in color but are not hand gathered. So i think that would disqualify them. Is it possible that marbles in the Opal agate box are actually canaries? Interesting marble mystery indeed. Here's a side by side of some of the old boxes just for fun. It would be mind blowing if someone shows up with an original canary agate box. Steph, the marble that you own that you believe could be an opal agate....is it visibly hand gathered and opalescent? Also, whats the background story on the balance sheet if you don't mind me asking. Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Thanks for the pix! George Sourlis sent me the copy of the balance sheet. I'll have to ask him about the backstory. Yes, my opalescent yellow is hand-gathered and highly fluorescent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migbar Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 As I mentioned in post number 3, I think the marbles Steph showed in post 2 are canaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 So I might have a Canary! I haz a happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast_dave Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Seems to fit the bill to me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I wasn't making the hand-gathered assumption for canaries, since by 1929 machine-mades were rolling out . . . but if it's only hand-gathered marbles we're talking about then I'd say it's likely that Steph haz a canary! Wait. On the document they distinguish between materials for opal agates and materials for canaries -- and in the bulk marbles they make the same distinction. So are they talking about two different things? Are we wrong to assume those yellowish-milkies in the Opal Agate box are canaries? Or wrong to assume they're (also) opal agates? Milkie, canary, and opal are the ones we're uncertain about now, right? With a leaning toward the canaries being . . . well, like those yellowish ones in the opal agate box? And . . . back in the day, the term opal was used to mean translucent -- but it did not mean the fiery orange backglow we mean by the term today. Just noting it. Having Hellmers' batch book right here . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migbar Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 I've said on numerous occasions that I believe the Peltier milkies are a translucent soft opalescent marble that glows orangey when backlit, with internal threads, similar to the Acme Realers, but without a patch. I think the canaries are like milkies with a soft yellow tint, like the marbles in the opal agates box in post #2, and that opal agates are likely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 I've said on numerous occasions that I believe the Peltier milkies are a translucent soft opalescent marble that glows orangey when backlit, with internal threads, similar to the Acme Realers, but without a patch. So the milkies might be Peltier's version of the moonie? I like thinking of it as an Acme Realer without a patch. That would make a pretty marble. And Opal Agates could be . . . Where's Hansel? Does he have some informative boxes, do you suppose? That would be nice to see . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migbar Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yes, milkies are Peltier's version of moonies. Whatever the opal agates are, they most likely have an opalescent base, like the milkies and the prima agates. Hansel may have a box and not realize they are Peltiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Hansel may have a box and not realize they are Peltiers. That would be fun to find out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Just stumbled across this while looking for something else -- one of the "Smileys," in case you hadn't seen one -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migbar Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 Not that special to me...I think people are looking at them upside down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted August 14, 2015 Report Share Posted August 14, 2015 I think people are looking at them upside down... That's what I thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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