does an indian have to be black? If purple banded opaque? thanks

[Jeremysvt]

[Chad G.]

Backlight, if purple trans.  "Maglite Indian" .  If opaque, banding color doesn't matter, still an Indian  A banded opaque is an Indian. 

[ann]

Yes. Sometimes an Indian can look black, but back-lit, it can be purple transparent, like Chad says. I also have one that`s blue, another that`s green, and one that is a sort of olive-gold. I think people sometimes don`t backlight their Indians - I love it when those people are sellers. That`s how I got most of mine!

[Jeremysvt]

4 hours ago, Chad G. said:

Backlight, if purple trans. "Indian Maglite" .  If opaque, banding color doesn't matter, still an Indian  A banded opaque is an Indian.

would you call this an "Indian Maglite"?  thanks or banded swirl?

[ann]

Looks like a maglite to me.

[Chad G.]

                                                                             x2, Maglite Indian i.e. banded transparent

 

                                                This ones a green Maglite Indian w/ a ghost core (banded transparent)

                                   

                                   

                                  I thought it was opaque like the rest of the bunch until I ran a bright light underneath.

                           

[wvrons]

[Akro75]

I remember this debate in Grist’s books, but that is a nice banded opaque and a nice Indian . 

[wvrons]

What is the difference between a banded opaque and a Indian ?  

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[dannyboy]

3 hours ago, Jeremysvt said:

would you call this an "Indian Maglite"?  thanks or banded swirl?

 

3 hours ago, Jeremysvt said:

would you call this an "Indian Maglite"?  thanks or banded swirl?

I would call this one a banded transparent.

thanks

[Akro75]

Good question, but I remember for years an Indian was considered opaque “black glass” with the almost painted like glass seemingly on top, some were not opaque but the color palette always was similar. The banded opaque was always white with typical red glass on surface, sometimes green or blue mixed in …granted I have tons examples of each that defy what was always once said, but the color palette for Indians to me is pretty recognizable whether opaque or semi. I would love to see how these were marketed back in the day! 

[dannyboy]

5 minutes ago, wvrons said:

What is the difference between a banded opaque and a Indian ?  

 

Banded Opaques will have a colored or white base while Indians will have what appears to be an opaque black base.

thanks

[dannyboy]

Ron; Your's is so damn close to being a 360 degree Indian.

thanks

[Chad G.]

A black opaque Indian by definition is a banded opaque. Indian, I believe is a collectors name, IMO. Opaque is opaque to me all 3 of Ron's examples are banded opaque's, just my opinion .......    ......   Needs more butter !!

[Akro75]

Of course collectors names, I believe they probably called them “opal threaded glass marbles “ ..or something… and “Indians”…clambroths, peppermints and “banded opaques” were under the same umbrella. 

[dannyboy]

Weren't most of the handmade marbles named by collectors? My head is about to implode, better go to bed.😃

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[Da Roberto]

6 hours ago, dannyboy said:

Gli opachi fasciati avranno una base colorata o bianca mentre gli indiani avranno quella che sembra essere una base nera opaca.

Grazie

I have always considered it this way

[Jeremysvt]