Tommy Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 5/8in Is this c.a.c or an unidentifiable transparent base swirl .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 I could see CAC . . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibby wonka Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 Cairo ivory swirl ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 I could see Cairo too. What does the underside of the white ribbons look like - the part exposed to the base? Are they smooth or does it look like someone dragged a fork through them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted March 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ric said: I could see Cairo too. What does the underside of the white ribbons look like - the part exposed to the base? Are they smooth or does it look like someone dragged a fork through them? They are smooth👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tommy said: They are smooth👍 Then I'd go with Cairo - the wavy base glass in the first pic had me seeing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 Hats off to Mibby too! Does it glow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted March 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 No glow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 If it is any Cairo ivory it has to glow from the certain limited dirty white or ivory white Vitrolite cullet used in making it. Most Cairo Novelty similar to this have a clear base, not tinted yellow, with white swirl. The seedy bad glass would be unusual for CAC. Maybe Champion or Alox ? You can eliminate some but probably not down to only one maker. Typical of most transparent base and single color WV swirls. Where is the yellow tint coming from ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, wvrons said: If it is any Cairo ivory it has to glow from the certain limited dirty white or ivory white Vitrolite cullet used in making it . . . I just want to clarify, Ron. Not all of the white Cairo used glowed, right? Didn't they use Pond's jars too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 No not every Cairo that has white will glow. Only the ones that has been labeled Ivory. That is because of that certain limited dirty white Vitrolite cullet. Which I think Jackson and Davis shared one dump truck load. I am 100% sure the ivory marbles at the Cairo Novelty site were all made at Jackson and Davis companies, not far away. Then ended up at the Cairo Novelty site after both of those two companies closed. Cairo did not use Ponds's jars. but lots of other non glowing white from Fenton and white Vitrolite thats does not glow, plus others. I can match exact any group of three or six so called Ivories found at Cairo with dug Jackson or Davis. Dave McCullough with over 30 years of making marbles tried for many years to copy another companies marbles. He came close one time while at Champion. He was trying to copy Ravenswoods. They still confuse people today and will for years. I don't think Cairo Novelty copied Jacksons and Davis exact. Especially when Jackosn and Davis were so limited in numbers of varieties made. Call them Cairo ivories but they are Jackson and Davis to me. I sent some of my dug Jackson and Davis to the last Cairo dig. The diggers compared the ivories that they dug and what I sent Jackson and Davis marbles and no one could separate them. Ravenswoods or Champions ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted March 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 54 minutes ago, wvrons said: If it is any Cairo ivory it has to glow from the certain limited dirty white or ivory white Vitrolite cullet used in making it. Most Cairo Novelty similar to this have a clear base, not tinted yellow, with white swirl. The seedy bad glass would be unusual for CAC. Maybe Champion or Alox ? You can eliminate some but probably not down to only one maker. Typical of most transparent base and single color WV swirls. Where is the yellow tint coming from ? Base glass is yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 Transparent yellow base glass would be odd for CAC or Cairo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibby wonka Posted March 24, 2023 Report Share Posted March 24, 2023 Cairo has a champagne ivory....but alox looks like a good fit too. I forget about that one often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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