The Nickel Guy Posted Monday at 11:16 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 11:16 PM The one on the left looks Jabo or D.A.S. to me, the one on the right might be Jabo, I don't know. Both about 5/8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted Tuesday at 03:00 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:00 AM What size are these? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nickel Guy Posted Tuesday at 01:51 PM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 01:51 PM 5/8th inch and thank you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesnothere Posted Tuesday at 02:33 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 02:33 PM Couldn't tell ya but the left sure looks like the infamous jabo hit marks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nickel Guy Posted Tuesday at 03:01 PM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 03:01 PM Agree. I do think it resembles a couple of other transparent/translucent Jabo's or DAS I have. Thanks for looking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted Tuesday at 07:29 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:29 PM 20 hours ago, The Nickel Guy said: I don't know. Both about 5/8 More images of each would narrow it down. The Left one may be a Pelt and the right one may be a nice WVS. Marble--On!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted Tuesday at 11:52 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:52 PM We really need to see the seam on the other side of the left one. So far I think it’s a Pelt🔥 RAR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted Wednesday at 12:10 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 12:10 AM They don't impress me as new. The left looks a little more Jabo-esque than the right, at least to me. But I would need more views of both to offer more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nickel Guy Posted Wednesday at 01:17 AM Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 01:17 AM Oh my, hang in there folks and thanks for the studying. I will try to take some good images of this pair and follow up soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted Wednesday at 01:46 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 01:46 AM Ric nailed it. It’s not a weak Pelt 7-Up🔥 RAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nickel Guy Posted Wednesday at 02:15 AM Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:15 AM Since you guys are so nice to study these, I figured I can at least provide my best effort in a couple collage pictures before hitting the hay. I have a hard time with seams it seems. Thanks, hope these suffice. I do think that is oxblood on no 1 here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted Wednesday at 03:52 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 03:52 AM 1 hour ago, The Nickel Guy said: I have a hard time with seams it seems. There are cutoffs somewhere on or in these marbles but no "seams" on these - they're swirls. The first one does look mostly like a JABO contract run or other newer marble to me. The dark green surrounding the red looks sort of contrived IMO (I'm not convinced it's oxblood - at least not yet). As for the second one, Alley and Heaton both did these colors and I don't recall newer marbles that did - it wouldn't necessarily surprise me if they're out there though. If this one is vintage, and it looks it to me, I'd lean Heaton over Alley. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nickel Guy Posted Wednesday at 02:43 PM Author Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:43 PM Haha ho! You learn something new every day. Thanks! I did not know swirls didn't have seams. Well that's a good thing to know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted Wednesday at 06:37 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:37 PM 14 hours ago, Ric said: There are cutoffs somewhere on or in these marbles but no "seams" on these Please explain this further Ric. Seams vs Cutoffs. Marble--On!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted Wednesday at 06:40 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 06:40 PM 16 hours ago, The Nickel Guy said: Thanks, hope these suffice. I do think that is oxblood on no 1 here. @Nantucketdink will have some answers here for sure. Lets give him a ring on these. Marble--On!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted Wednesday at 07:55 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 07:55 PM 1 hour ago, akroorka said: Please explain this further Ric. Seams vs Cutoffs. Marble--On!! It might just be me, Art. But I have always made a distinction between "seams", which I see as playing a significant role in the marble's design, and "cut-offs" which are more tangential to it. When I think of seams, I think of purposeful construction. Seams essentially divide the marble's surface into two halves that can be manipulated independently. This gives rise to different perspectives. For instance, Some marbles like Vitro Whities appear to have a single color equatorial ribbon, and lots of people, myself included, refer to them as "single ribbon" marbles. This is taking the perspective of a viewer. A producer might see it as two equatorial ribbons, running seam-to-seam, one on each half of the marble I often tend to take the latter perspective. The reason I say this is because I wouldn't refer to a marble like a Vitro Whitie that had a red ribbon on one side and a green ribbon on the other half as a "single ribbon" marble. If it is the same color on both halves of the marble I think we call it a single ribbon from the perspective of viewers. Just look what the possibility of having two independent canvases has given us, everything from bifurcated marbles, to three or more different colors on each half of the marble (6+ total), to single color equatorial ribbons that many would refer to as patches. Cut-offs, on the other hand, I see as almost a necessary evil. It's just a fact of making marbles. I usually associate them with hand-gathered, including transitional, marbles and machine-made swirls. This is not to say that cut-offs play no role in the design of a marble. Pontils and Cat's Eyes are other stories altogether. All of this IMHO, of course. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted Wednesday at 08:24 PM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 08:24 PM Your opinion counts for sure Ric. Thanks for sharing your insight. The newer collectors have a hard time deciphering what you are saying for sure. I have never meant to talk down to the newer collectors—just share info. I just want to clear it up somewhat. Thanks for sharing what you do here at "TheMarbleConnection". It is getting on to where you will step out for awhile. (yes, I keep track) I/we will always welcome you back for sure! Stepping out of collecting marbles for a bit is not a bad thing--it is a sane thing to do. You will be missed! (for awhile at least) Marble-On!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nickel Guy Posted yesterday at 12:53 AM Author Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:53 AM Superb info and conversation. Thanks a bunch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago On 4/23/2025 at 2:40 PM, akroorka said: @Nantucketdink will have some answers here for sure. Lets give him a ring on these. Marble--On!! Click. Sorry can’t help here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
et cetera Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago The green base swirl is an early Vacor Wicked Owl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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