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A couple Jabo types. I think not common classics though . . hmmm?


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1 hour ago, The Nickel Guy said:

I have a hard time with seams it seems. :huh:

There are cutoffs somewhere on or in these marbles but no "seams" on these - they're swirls.

The first one does look mostly like a JABO contract run or other newer marble to me. The dark green surrounding the red looks sort of contrived IMO (I'm not convinced it's oxblood - at least not yet). As for the second one, Alley and Heaton both did these colors and I don't recall newer marbles that did - it wouldn't necessarily surprise me if they're out there though. If this one is vintage, and it looks it to me, I'd lean Heaton over Alley.

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1 hour ago, akroorka said:

Please explain this further Ric.

Seams vs Cutoffs.

Marble--On!!

It might just be me, Art. But I have always made a distinction between "seams", which I see as playing a significant role in the marble's design, and "cut-offs" which are more tangential to it.

When I think of seams, I think of purposeful construction. Seams essentially divide the marble's surface into two halves that can be manipulated independently. This gives rise to different perspectives.

For instance, Some marbles like Vitro Whities appear to have a single color equatorial ribbon, and lots of people, myself included, refer to them as "single ribbon" marbles. This is taking the perspective of a viewer. A producer might  see it as two equatorial ribbons, running seam-to-seam, one on each half of the marble

I often tend to take the latter perspective. The reason I say this is because I wouldn't refer to a marble like a Vitro Whitie that had a red ribbon on one side and a green ribbon on the other half as a "single ribbon" marble. If it is the same color on both halves of the marble I think we call it a single ribbon from the perspective of viewers. 

Just look what the possibility of having two independent canvases has given us, everything from bifurcated marbles, to three or more different colors on each half of the marble (6+ total), to single color equatorial ribbons that many would refer to as patches.

Cut-offs, on the other hand, I see as almost a necessary evil. It's just a fact of making marbles. I usually associate them with hand-gathered, including transitional, marbles and machine-made swirls. This is not to say that cut-offs play no role in the design of a marble.

Pontils and Cat's Eyes are other stories altogether.

All of this IMHO, of course.

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Your opinion counts for sure Ric.
Thanks for sharing your insight. 
The newer collectors have a hard time deciphering what you are saying for sure. 
I have never meant to talk down to the newer collectors—just share info. 
I just want to clear it up somewhat.
Thanks for sharing what you do here at "TheMarbleConnection".

It is getting on to where you will step out for awhile. (yes, I keep track)

I/we will always welcome you back for sure!

Stepping out of collecting marbles for a bit is not a bad thing--it is a sane thing to do.

You will be missed! (for awhile at least)
Marble-On!!

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