Master Mobile Oil Marbles

[Parmcat]

I got the package today.  Both sides of the wrapper are identical.  No seam on the back of the bag.  

25 solid grey coloured marbles

[Chad G.]

Fantasy Bag

[Al Oregon]

I have to disagree with Chad G. on this one. There were many companies that used marbles as a giveaway. While I don't have this bag, there are many other legitimate bags that did advertising like this back in the 50's-60's time frame. Master Lubricants was a legitimate national company. Of course, there are a ton of fantasy bags doing this "same" type of marketing ploy to seem legit but they all use colorful marbles, not plain white ones like these. So, I would go with legit bag.

[Parmcat]

16 minutes ago, Al Oregon said:

I have to disagree with Chad G. on this one. There were many companies that used marbles as a giveaway. While I don't have this bag, there are many other legitimate bags that did advertising like this back in the 50's-60's time frame. Master Lubricants was a legitimate national company. Of course, there are a ton of fantasy bags doing this "same" type of marketing ploy to seem legit but they all use colorful marbles, not plain white ones like these. So, I would go with legit bag.

Thank you!

[cheese]

I guess it looks different to different folks, but it looks fake to me. 

 

 

[Parmcat]

5 hours ago, cheese said:

I guess it looks different to different folks, but it looks fake to me. 

 

 

What am I looking at here?

[Chad G.]

I thought all the real vintage bags had a pleat right down the center of the back where the plastic was melted together, just IMO. There's something to do with round or flat staples to, Al would know more than me. The picture cheese shows looks like a computer printed header instead of stamped like the vintage ones, I have a few questions myself.  Muriatic acid applied to the staples will make them rust in a day so I know that as an old scammers trick.  The single colored marbles in the bag is odd though ?? Just one more thing to look out for.

[Al Oregon]

I rarely look under magnification but I can see where Cheese is coming from - it does look iffy although I can't imagine someone using the plain marbles... Plus, I have never seen that bag or picture thereof before.

[cheese]

6 hours ago, Parmcat said:

What am I looking at here?

Thin lines making up a blurry text, not something I recall ever seeing on any old marble bags but believe I have seen on fantasy bags. Al knows his bags for sure. But a quote from the "realorrepro" site, "Low resolution digital images can often be identified by jagged, angular or ragged edges on letters and art work (Fig. 12) Any of those features indicate a new header."

Things to look at on this bag to indicate that it's a fantasy bags are more than one or two colors (this has 3), No seam down the middle, and incorrect product placement. This is a teens through 30s or 40s logo on a poly bag, which wasn't popular until the 50s-60s and after and even then it was with a seam down the back. I don't think Mastermobile was a product after the 50s anymore, so there is barely any overlap. Also, fantasy bags normally have round wire staples, which yours has, not flat. 

Also look at the border around the edges, this is common on older repro bags, along with the size and proportions of the header, which seems to be common during that time. Also across the bottom shows perforations, meaning this was a roll product of tear-off bags, blown poly tube construction which wasn't a method of production during the 50s. They were still folding the plastic into a tube and melting it (which makes the seam on the back) during that time.

 

Compare with the info and photos here and you'll see the similarities: https://www.realorrepro.com/article/Fake-and-fantasy-bags-of-marbles

[akroorka]

1 hour ago, Al Oregon said:

rarely look under magnification but I can see where Cheese is coming from - it does look iffy although I can't imagine someone using the plain marbles... Plus, I have never seen that bag or picture thereof before.

Al,

You do not miss many---

Marble--On!!