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41 minutes ago, William said:

Yep, a Frosted Hurricane 

Yep X2--a pretty nice one.

Some of Vacors "Frosted Marbles" were not marketed in the USA--Is this one of them??

Lets call in @Mojo he has close ties with @Andy McLaughlin from Alaska, who wrote the book on Vacors.

Andy is very busy in the wild, Fishing Hunting and--well collecting Vacor and other marbles.--Maybe Mojo has some thoughts here.

Marble--On!!

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I do remember one thing someone had told me (a while ago that has stuck in my mind) is that it's an "African" of some make, which I don't recall. I looked up Vacor Hurricane on images searches and I did find one that was on eBay (but no longer available to view).

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6 hours ago, William said:

Could you possibly get some better lighting for the pics? The colors might be a little more identifiable otherwise...looks interesting...

Yeah mate, had trouble sleeping last night and took these pics under lights, I will try again shortly for better quality.

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1 minute ago, Fire1981 said:

African ? Can you shed some more light on that? I’m not familiar with any African marbles. Do tell 🔥

RAR

lol, I don't really know, its  just something someone had mentioned about this marble (years ago) that stuck in my head.

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25 minutes ago, Flicker said:

I do remember one thing someone had told me (a while ago that has stuck in my mind) is that it's an "African" of some make, which I don't recall. I looked up Vacor Hurricane on images searches and I did find one that was on eBay (but no longer available to view).

Maybe it was sold in Africa--just made in Mexico.

I have little doubt that there are some folks making marbles in Africa some place--just for us in the USA at least-------

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Flicker has a good memory. There were Hurricanes that were packaged for Europe with the name Africa on the header. Here are two pics of the Don Juan bag (Netherlands) and a very rare Mega bag with the Africa name that "slipped through" the Guadalajara "checkpoint" that Pete was able to get prior to the 2003 time frame when I bought it from him.

 

Africa - Don Juan Bag - Africa (20+1) (Netherlands) - Side 1 - Al - M7.JPG

Africa - Don Juan Bag - Africa (20+1) (Netherlands) - Side 2 - Al - M7.JPG

Africa - Mega Coll Bag (New) - Africa (24+1) (Hurricanes for Europe) - Side 1 - Al - M6.jpg

Africa - Mega Coll Bag (New) - Africa (24+1) (Hurricanes for Europe) - Side 2 - Al - M6.jpg

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9 minutes ago, Al Oregon said:

Flicker has a good memory. There were Hurricanes that were packaged for Europe with the name Africa on the header. Here are two pics of the Don Juan bag (Netherlands) and a very rare Mega bag with the Africa name that "slipped through" the Guadalajara "checkpoint" that Pete was able to get prior to the 2003 time frame when I bought it from him.

 

Africa - Don Juan Bag - Africa (20+1) (Netherlands) - Side 1 - Al - M7.JPG

Africa - Don Juan Bag - Africa (20+1) (Netherlands) - Side 2 - Al - M7.JPG

Africa - Mega Coll Bag (New) - Africa (24+1) (Hurricanes for Europe) - Side 1 - Al - M6.jpg

Africa - Mega Coll Bag (New) - Africa (24+1) (Hurricanes for Europe) - Side 2 - Al - M6.jpg

Thank you Al

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1 hour ago, Al Oregon said:

There were Hurricanes that were packaged for Europe with the name Africa on the header.

Good job Al Oregon, so many headers so many names.

You bailed us all out here once again.👍.

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Just as an after-tought with no proof.

I have always tought that Vacor "Frosted" marbles rather than put them out to pasture.( no proof)

This may be one of those.

The "Frosted" ones always seem to be very nice when coverage is considered and it makes sense to do so--money wise for them.

These are just my weird toughts as a collector--who sometimes thinks too much about this weird thing that makes us collect toy marbles😁.

I collect and I do my do diligence.--I  may just be mental with marbles:wub:.

I just suck at WVS ID🤢--the rest, well, I get them get pretty well.

No marbles suck imho--some are just a tad or so better ( yep sometimes much better--but that is what we do here--try to get to the next level).

Collect what you like and keep on collecting.

If you are into the money--just stick around for awhile--you never know do you?

Are there any out there willing to trade for Bennies--probably not but they are just a thing that you want to keep for some reason (the Chickadee of all marbles).

I just love them all--Anything Round!!!

Marble--On!!

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Indeed, Al, very cool,  I'm guessing that these examples are not readily found image wise anywhere (the rare one), and I sure haven't seen the Africa bag (Netherlands) I Don't think....so, did the ID get flipped too one of these varieties? (ie referencing  the bail out) because the new images still appear frosted too me...

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The only reason I ask is because lately ID threads are going in multiple directions. Either the original poster disagrees with multiple IDs from other collectors, or the thread goes astray with various marbles, or as what appears here to me anyway, is that the original ID went a different direction without conclusive confirmation? 

These threads seem too be getting longer and longer. Just wondering for clarity...is it still a Frosted Hurricane or something else?

Thanks again Al for unveiling those bags!

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Africa or Hurricane? No difference in the marbles unless you have a headed bag. Different distributors around the world sometimes assigned different names to the same marble. American collectors use the Mega names but try to tell that to a Mexican collector who probably has the greater right. Then there's the European and Australian markets. Vacor itself didn't give a rat's a**e as the collector market concerned them not in the least (until they commissioned the Atmosphere).

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