I'llhavethat1

With marbles this old the pontil detail can get lost with surface wear, but basically what you're looking for is evidence of faceting in the circled area. The faceting can sometimes be so well done you need to look for reflections in bright light (similar to vintage Agates) Based on the pattern, color combo and everything else, im confident in my original comment this is a German Greiner, and not a later American melted pontil Leighton

From the pics looks like a faceted pontil Greiner (Germany ~1850's). Nice.

What size are those? This is approx 1-1/8"

Approx 13/16" enjoying the sunshine

9/16" to 1-7/16" . I really would like to get my hands on a nicer horizontal Navarre. There was a member years back that had a nice handful, not sure if he's still around

First one has a really 'clean' look. Most of the ones I've come across are absolutely beat.

^agreed

Pelt. Not sure if people are still using the "miller" swirl terminology but no to that.

Im not seeing the 3rd stage from the pics?

Hard to tell from the pics posted. Might even be a Euro. What's the size?

I'd consider 'mushroom' but I can see where others would guess Pelt (I don't think it is)

A worthy bump to this thread, nice detailed pics.

The oldest Germans typically are believed to be ground/faceted pontils. Some are done so well = barely visible. It's always wise to closely inspect in hand with a loupe if possible. You can only tell so much from a picture on a screen. But yes there is a lot to learn, and a lot of different opinions when it comes to names/definitions so I take most with a grain of salt

The last pic of transitionals is interesting. There were a couple guys (years ago) that had put together some nice collections of those particular opaque types.

Looks good from here. Although it could be argued to be a paneled onionskin

Handgathered transitional, most likely Foreign to the US

Ive seen similar in non-US lots. 1st Pic almost looks like a 'Pincer' with minimal coverage.

This isn't your marble though, right? What does the person who has it, have to say about it? Any provenance etc.?

Nice save

Got these guys out for some sunshine today. 15/16" +/-

Im not seeing anything Peltier in this thread

Could be? Or even Akro. I'd base that on the assumption most of the red glass is underneath and an extraordinary amount of the white ended up on the surface. Different lighting would help

Agreed that it looks like a Euro wirepull. On my screen its lavendr / blue on a dark amber base, is that correct in hand? Size can also factor into ID.

Some nice examples there I don't recall seeing a the blue/yellow/white combos before

Nice one!