Jeff54

Not a slag rather, it is mainly a WV swirl pattern. I am though, surprised you'd call this a slag Fire as it appears to be a white ribbon swirl. No road and tunnel either, just random swirling white strand in transparent yellow. No clue who made it yet I do not suspect CAC. Yellow and white swirl, I don't think I have or seen something like this color mix as it would stand out so, it's a like 😉 either way.

Yeah, you gonna find CAC listings from hyper sales kooks who either have no clue or just trying to hustle U. And that is on any marble some clowns or simply ignorant beginners. I mean, not all are con artists, but when it comes to CAC the range of scam and ignorance is high. U done good, check em before you jump.

This angle sums it up, CAC no doubt:

Looks like a wanky mis formed Jabo to me, especially the colors too.

I would file this in the Champion Jr. Sunset variation category.

If it's made from a type of fire brick ceramic I could imagine a usage if an automatic system was to, say, move each hole under a nozzle where it could contain a measured amount thin molten glass. Especially a hole to receive, clear that has a thin stripe color or white. Holes to gather from a nozzle that's opening is close to 1/8th too 3/16th of an inch where wire pull style marbles were made. However, I have never seen anything like this, nore of any patents or systems that made wire pull types of marbles. I mean, wire pull is only random because it's got a stripe on clear. The stripe is a continuous line from one cut to the end which is somehow gathered on something. Unlike glass that is mixed in a tank wire pulls are less random, the line is not broken or mixed so, somehow, they are a continuous stream that's too thin to maintain the heat required to retain a gob which is then dropped on the rollers to shape a nice smooth sphere. I could imagine something in a cup shape where thin streams were gathered, not just wire pulls but occasional flames too. Yet, not the amount of automation to move this tray under a nozzle or multiple nozzles within the environment and or temperatures that may be required. However, I believe that, as example of what's easy to see in wire pulls, something in a cup form that keeps it hot, would be needed for gathering or contain the striped stream of molten glass.

That's very kind of you to say Ric, TKS.

Tank's but Bob deserves the credit. And, that's the thing where Beri Fox's video, making yellow cats, illustrates how it's not 'injected' rather 'incased' might be easier to understand. . Regardless, more from Bob's lectures is :"Range of variation." The Akro box with Sparklers is a certifiable, despite it's not stamped "Sparklers" it's all fresh blood. Bob's discovery and Ron's verification and events are trustworthy. I do not or have never seen 100 count Akro 100 count boxes that did not have "Sparkler" Stamped on them. Regardless, seen boxes that did and considering "Range of variation' the Box posted here clearly shows that. It is good enough to see that, some have less than 5 colors and a few do. There's a few where color is not feathering, but like a patch. . This is a given: variation will always happen, albeit some more and others less. . It is dependent on whatever means the manufacture can control. Sparklers clearly show the means and distribution to the entire stream is random to some extent. To the point 'There are Akro Sparklers and there are Sparklers' ,but if not 5 colors, it's not.' The box has plenty that are not, plus other original boxes, usually, if it hasn't been refilled with handpicked replacements, it will happen too. The image of this box is plenty large enough to see them. The thing as I have understood for decades is, original 100 count, or less, 50, 25 etc. and unopened bags too is potential surprises, some more and some less come with the hunting and gathering game. In addition, I have Master Marbles with all the colors, including layers into more incased in clear but not the same Clear base mixture Akro's do. While a few Masters have yellow and light blue with white, that is the first which draws me in as it seems to be the most frequent. . Toss a little red and or green, I'm looking closer. Give me some blends from the basic list matching Akro color tones or hues and tones, the same as Akro, only question left is to tone of its clear base. . And finally, does either or both, at least one cut off has a straight line or relatively close. It only gets tricky when a Master has pointy and curved or straight. While ultimately, Who's colors and or type of clear either has. Foreigners and later Master's just don't compete against it. To the "Must have 5 colors rule: To my understanding, this is good advice, "Pick the best examples" B/C it's where it may gain or at least retain value or leave you hunting still, for best in your collection. 'Range of variation is a constant so, not all will be the best. Not to leave out, in Sparklers and others years ago, they're intended to be random so they would not look the same. You can look to Japan Cats as redundance or dilution of the same thing gets dull quick.

Not Marble King: Green, green, white, white and blue, blue makes 6. And none of the colors cross through the center..

I think it's an Akro too. However Back in the 1990's whenever Bob Block created the very first discussion board for marble collectors on the net, he had also given live chat lectures and discussions explaining most methods of how marbles since MFC too automated gob feeders were made. Accordingly, relating to Akro and cats, it's the Akro Sparkler's creation that's known to have been the first to develop the injection method that cat eyes are made even today. . If you have seen Berri Fox's Marble King Utube video of making cats, it actually very simple.

I'd have to agree with that assessment. I have 100's and 100's of factory dug-up marbles and although some have surface scratches and a few knicks, this slag is the most beat up, moons, chips wear and tear of any I've seen. However who's to say it wasn't run over by a fork lift, rolling around the floor for who knows how long. I would only accept something like it if it has provenance I could rely on. As for Peltier, it is a possibility for that near triangular pattern in the 9. How or why a hand gathered marble could have any triangular 9 in repetition defies my imagination, but it's the only recognizing thing that some Pelt slags may have. Yet, that culet does not have the same colors. Blue, white and black: my memory fails me; I can't recall a Peltier that's striped (multiple streams produced with a gob feeder) with only those colors that was not blended coloring like a blue Zebra. If the black has aventurine, it would seal the deal, something with Pelt's ribbons/stripes and pattern, I don't know about or recall, exists.

CAC is my 1st impression on first post. It's definitely not those thought from Canada manufacture. Not anything European I have seen. However, Translucent throws me as I thought same colors in a swirl I have. IDK are there any expert class CAC collectors on line any more? Bob B is a good guy I kike him, but I have seen him site way to many Dug-up HG Akros as CAC so.... I do not think this is an Akro yet, that's become a tough area since the HG dug-ups. Otherwise, translucent red, maybe for lack of more red it's a yellow devil. 😁

Vitro cage x3

I had a polishing machine never burnt them and doubt you could. IDK,but I let one run for days. If it gets dry then it'll scratch it up and take forever to shine. Ended up, I didn't like the results, color changes once you get into the top layer, especially Peltier like this. Machine just sat for years and ended up giving it away for a few bucks. You got an air pop with sharp edges which is usually a good clue. Some people try and round off the sharp edges of the air pop, Clue 2, to try and hide it. Distinctive ribbons get thinner and may fade or get ground off and cannot recognize what it was. Not all marbles come out too bad yet, I decided I liked beat up junk verses the changes original surface goes through. This one is odd for the dark red, usually, like in a Superman, go toward pink when Peltier's red is ground. Nothing wrong having a polished marble in place of a nice one yet still, I'd rather have sling shot ammo for the colors. I tossed out as junk for ending up so different. Cork screws can end up losing the twist and other machine made just don't look right. Occasionally a light buff can help otherwise, it aint happening.

Alox original bag. Early swirls using typical slag colors:

3/4" Tomato and mayo. 😁

None of those you mentioned have the same green or orange/red/yellow that a Dragon does. I also have all you said, plus.

I believe that yellow and green base is a Dragon and Flamming Dragon at that. Got plenty red blending on the ribbons. Regardless, even old style green and yellow are dragons without any red, where better is when the red is flaming. I have two 3/4" and four 5/8"" that are older style NLR with yellow/red blending, 'Flaming' and one 5/8" Dragon with no red or Flames. White yours is not the same as my older NLR's it's got the right colors and blending. I think the only difference is, older is a more favored NLR and newer. I mean, If on the chopping block as a Flamming Dragon for sale, mine would have a higher following.

MK Christmassy 5/8" Finally, as promised. Can't believe how hard it's been. 1st and 2nd attempt wasn't saved when I made the shots. Micro not clean focused. I give, as these are good enough. Now you can see the white. It's patched on top, then green ribbon, and another set of red, then white under the ribbons. I was thinking "Rainbow red" but those would not have a patch on the top. "Christmassy" I wouldn't call this watermelon but, these are very hard to find. Perhaps the hardest in these colors resembling a Watermelon but not. IDK, maybe U could say: All red watermelon? What would you call them? Who can give then a name they deserve? It's not an all red rather, they're patch and ribbon.

In this Peltier; like the topic marble, although not highlighted, as the topic, is also a panel or section that's the same blue in a superman. Yet, I took this photo below over 20 years ago and as with it, red ribbon is there. It's a NLR of the earlier verity. Both the red and yellow are oddly unlike that of a Superman. It would be considered one but there's too much green. With that I chose to call it a Kryptonite as it is dull for the red and yellow weird colors and lacks the usual full blue one would normally have. For the comic book old school kids names of marbles and popularity associated with them it would very likely what I would have thought about one like it even though it's not the emerald green depicted in the comics but one that was radiated. In the newer verities, the red and yellow like superman appears with green and no other Peltier does that. , without a name, that also has the green that lacks a given name, seems suitable as a Kryptonite as well. In all good humor virtually, a Superman verity that got radiated. It is so with the topic, there is clearly Superman blue and mixed with the blue base is green-Ish, 'radiated' 😁. I mean, if one of the oldest styles has these colors, I think it would follow suite in the newer, like the topic.

Kryptonite makes Superman weak.

WV W late entry; I am surprised that it fails the typical known styles or types. Pretty sure I've seen one or two like it, 10-15 years whenever I would scan eBay all the time. I've figured it's also of another verity that, whether CAC or? In clear no color is like this below: Its thick rich yellow, white and blending brown glass wants to look like CAC. Like the green one, it has similar ribbon blending and turning but, I guessed maybe Alox, yet IDK, maybe Ya'll seen it. I forgot and did not consider the way a few CAC's such as the Snotty and the Blue Lace's modern swirls are similar meandering ribbons, yet I don't think are the same. However, this and the green, yellow and orange has a single wide, thin blending ribbon like this does. If I was to turn it, get enough light to see the inside of the green then, they both have 1 wide blending ribbon that meanders from one end to the other. From what I've seen, I don't recall anything like this show up too. Again; Old photo when I'd thought Alox for the wide ribbon and nobody else seems to fit except, 'Maybe CAC' which I doubt too. .

Looks like Euro's from 70-80's, maybe even 90's

Here's a PDF book with 130 pages that takes the history of glass works, jewelry, beads, marbles and Christmas ornaments up one more level. Just a few within the photos on page 85 are some hand gathered examples. Published 2016: Interestingly Lauscha area is in denial regarding trade beads while the author found plenty evidence in an abandoned glass site on page 89- 91. BeadsfromGermany.pdf (beadmuseum.com)