Mon, Its just me, I get frustrated easier in my old age so I Am trying to look at marbles like I would a nice sculpture or painting. I look at those for their beauty and how they effect me on a more primal level, And I don't worry about what size or type chisels the sculpture used or what kind of brushes or stroke the painter used. Now some folks would think about these things but not I. So I am giving that a try with marbles. Plus, unlike you John Steph Bob Winnie and several others, there are folks here that can not handle discussions in a civilized manner. I am tired of stoking their engines. I may not like this new way for long, we shall see.