Mon, Where is the Flim Flaming going on??? No one that currently has any of these marbles and selling them is making a profit IMO. (lots of folks have taken a huge loss in selling theirs the in last few years. There haven't been any brought out it quite some time that were part of the original find (or manufacture) for those that think they are new. So there isn't anyone that I know of currently making money selling these things. As for my original posts I have changed my mind After years of studying them I have leaned way toward the side that they are Old, Again I have no proof so that is why I say "I believe". Maybe someday I will think in another way but for now "I believe they are old" Thats all no big deal and I certainly have no want to keep rehashing the subject. Maybe in another 10 years we can do it all over again. I paid 20,000 for the last CAC collection I bought and it contained quite a few of these marbles. If I did not believe they were real and vintage I probably wouldn't have made the purchase. I probably could not sell any of them for a profit. I like them. Thats all, and am just trying to enjoy them for their beauty. You continue on and on like there is some big conspiracy going on. There just isn't anything more than some folks that think they are real and some that do not. At this point in time it seems the ones that believe they are real have more to go with than those that do not IMO. I can't believe I keep letting myself get sucked back in here. (LOL)