moremarbles4me Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 I recently got this box as shown. Any thoughts on the marbles that were in it so I can start backfilling? Thanks in advance Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 you could probabably put alley shooter in there...research what marbles were made at st marys.........or maybe pennsboro,,,,,prob not marble king patch and ribbon,....but if they were they would be the st marys types... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moremarbles4me Posted December 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Thanks Duffy, anybody have a picture of this box filled? Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanB Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 I've had this picture for a while, but don't remember the source. I have no idea if the marbles are original. The only other one that I've seen had Peltier Rainbos (also all on one side). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 The box Plan B shows is Bill Tow's - he posted a pic back in Nov 2007 - probably filled the box himself since he likes blue/greens. Here's two other box pics that I've gotten somewhere - one with MKs and one with Pelts so ....? (Note: I edited my post since I originally typed in Akros instead of MK's - sorry and thanks Steph) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedidoll Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 well,this is probably a silly question,but why wouldnt you put Marble King marbles in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanB Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Sellers Peltier was part owner of Marble King, and Pink had jobbered his marbles for years. Berry Pink simply changed the name on his "Champion Marbles" boxes to "Marble King", but probably continued to use Peltier marbles for some time. Remember, even the early Marble King mesh bags had Peltier Raibos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbobam Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 I have no idea if it's Christmas-related, but the more-than-normal number of 'historical' posts have all been really interesting! In this case does Bill Tow's appreciation for blue and greens mean that the marbles aren't necessarily appropriate for the box, or just that of all the potentially correct marbles he could have chosen these are the ones he liked? Thanks, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARBLEMISER Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 I have no idea if it's Christmas-related, but the more-than-normal number of 'historical' posts have all been really interesting!In this case does Bill Tow's appreciation for blue and greens mean that the marbles aren't necessarily appropriate for the box, or just that of all the potentially correct marbles he could have chosen these are the ones he liked? Thanks, Bob Yes, that's right. what you said> marblemiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Here's two other box pics that I've gotten somewhere - one with Akros and one with Pelts so ....? Al, it messed with my head for those to be Akros. Then I opened the thumbnail and realized they were MKs and felt better. A couple more boxes, one with Pelts and one with MKs. The 2nd box was sold by Morphy, who described the set as "Marble King Marbles with Original Box & Bag" but how could Morphy know they were original? and why are there so many marbles in the box?! (box #1 posted by nickybox) My guess is that more of those boxes originally came with Pelts than with MK patch and ribbon style rainbows. Further I think it's possible that none were marketed with MK rainbows in them. Berry Pink was pushing "Marble King marbles" long before there was a Marble King company. There is a photo of him in Issue #13 (Nov. 2005) of the WVMCC newsletter. It's from about 1940, taken in conjunction with the 1939-1940 New York World's Fair. He is standing with Jack Dempsey and Jim Braddock at a table full of Marble King mesh bags. The caption to the photo twice calls them "MARBLE KING marbles". Once when it talks about promotional materials which will come with packages of MARBLE KING marbles. And once when it says the two fighters are endorsing MARBLE KING marbles. (The caps were in the caption to the photo -- I'm not yelling. ) The 1954 catalog sheet shown on p. 105 of AMMM seems to be saying that the "Marble King" line goes back to 1929. It says "Featured for the past 25 years by leading jobbers." I don't necessarily believe there was Marble King labelling in 1929 but the Sunshine Rippled Wheat bags with this header seem to go back to the 30's. (marblealan) And then note that the 1954 ad shows Alley swirls in poly bags, and the only box shown is a Big Value Marble Assortment. with swirls. There's a Marble King "boy" on the ad but he's very cartoonish. Different from the boy we see on the boxes in this thread. Sourlis elsewhere shows a similar ad from 1953. Again, with Alley swirls in plastic bags. Finally, Rainbows started being made in 1956 or 57. And though the tournament bags from that time frame have a crouching marble player on them, he is wearing different clothes from the boy on these boxes. (sources: boxes, bag) My guess is that the box is from the 1940's, even the "Marble King marbles" version of it. And I'm not sure I'd buy leftover versions of it being used for Rainbows when by 1956 Berry Pink was obviously in the mood to update the boy's image. I suspect that any with Rainbows have been backfilled by people who for obvious reasons thought Marble Kings belonged in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARBLEMISER Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Here are 2 boxes that I have. They have mostly Pelt tracers & a couple Bloodie's. I plan on using the Tracers & finishing out the box with all colors ( Tracers. The other box I would like to use Blue Bees & Blue & Red Galaxys. If anyone has 5 Red Galaxy's, 4 blue Galaxys, 3 Blue Bees. And a Partridge in a Pear tree. Send them to me & I will glady send you a PIC of the box. JUST KIDDING!!! marblemiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FeelingMarbleous Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Whats the deal with red galaxy's ? aren't they just spidermans ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moremarbles4me Posted December 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 From the sounds of it I can put just about any type of peltier rainbo in this box that I want. The problem I have is I've been saving groups of "special" rainbos in groups of five. This box takes groups of six. Back to the hunt. LOL Thanks for everyones input Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARBLEMISER Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Charles I feel your pain. I have 5 of this & 5 of that. I think I'll use the Tracers I have in the one box. And when I win the Lotto fill it with more exotic Pelt rainbo's How many Pee Wees would that box hold? marblemiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moremarbles4me Posted December 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Marblemiser, it would take this many Pelt peewees to fill that box. LOL Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARBLEMISER Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Marblemiser, it would take this many Pelt peewees to fill that box. LOLCharles WoW I better get started!! I have several different pelts. Let me know what type you need to mak it 6. Maybe we can work something out? marblemiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Did everyone else (except me until today) know that the drawing of the boy as well as the Champion Marbles name came from a Pelt box? Peltier No. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 i dont sense your amazement here? id bet berry and sellers were business partners and sellers maybe thought that berry was a marketing genius....he just said you gotta put my name on the box.....course i haint talked to em...maybe you could ask roger howdyshell next time you talk to him...lololol.....but seriously...remember these were toys meant for kids....times were much different than these times......they sold and marketed marbles in many ways....the cereal premiums the bank giveaways etc....there were tons of marbles out there..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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