Marbles4Case Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Can someone please tell me if this is contemp or CAC. Thanks, Kevin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marbles4Case Posted November 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Another pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marbles4Case Posted November 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Does anybody out there have an opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I hesitate to give my opinion. Sounds as if you might be in a hurry. I'll move it to the main chat area to get more eyes on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I think they look pretty good for CAC, if not they would have to be a contemp made in their style. Galen where are ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 They look close but I see a few things that say torch to me. Couldn't make a positive call without them in hand. I have seen too many very close torch made CACs lately to make a call without the loupe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marbles4Case Posted November 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Thanks everyone for your help and here are a couple more pics in different lighting. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marbles4Case Posted November 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 grrrr. i hate large files!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marbles4Case Posted November 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 The reason why i was asking is because i am tripping on the seam as to how far it extends around one of the marbles and on the other one it isnt to straight. The other questionable factor i had was the blotchy pattern they have. I just purchased them and needed to know if i should return them as contemps. Thanks for all your feedbacks, Kevin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marbles4Case Posted November 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 They measure 5/8th's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinemades Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 You may want to send them to someone like Marblealan that you could trust for assesment. They could be fake or altered or wanderful examples. Don't take chances. They are though to tell from the pictures. Sami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marbles4Case Posted November 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Thanks for your help and everyones replies. Happy Thanksgiving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Chamberlain Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 If you're still checking in here regarding these two marbles I'm pretty sure they're torch made and machine roller rounded. Look like some of John McCormick's early work. He provides an incised and fired gold painted Shamrock logo on all his marbles now. This though looks a little sloppier than his usual precision marble-making. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Do you have any pics of a precision made McCormick marble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Chamberlain Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Nope! But the last group of something like 16 that I got from John had perfect seams and no mottled colors. I was rooming right across from John when he first showed up at Amana with his marbles and there is a world of difference between what he had then and what he's turning out now. They weren't bad then; it's just that he's refined his product and taken to signing everything. I suppose it is about time that I finally got to scanning some of my 35mm prints! David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Marbles Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 Kevin, I can attest that I did not make those marbles. I would agree with the experienced vintage collector opinions that it would be best to see it in hand before stating a final opinion. It is difficult to assess the marble with grainy, out-of-focus macro photos taken from just a few perspectives. I wish you the best in your quest for info. ----------------------- David, "Precision." Really? There is nothing precise about constructing a marble with random patterning. Precise is an adjective to be reserved for a Mark Matthews geometric graal or a Drew Fritts twist marble. Those two guys are professional artists -- I'm just an amateur glass melter with a round machine! Yes, you should get those 35mm prints scanned! I can just imagine how many photos of the various marbles you have and what it would take to get them digitized. My mind spins thinking about the possible task! --------------- Now, to layout the early Shamrock record. March 2003 the marble machine was ready for testing. Amana 2003 I showed a picture of the machine to a few people (Drew Fritts and Dan Grumbling). The end of August was the first successful creation of spherical marbles. October 2003 was the first public demonstration of the marble machine at Moon Marble. December 2003 was the first marble show that both marbles and the machine were displayed (Huck Finn). It was here that I met up with Chris Robinson. Went to John Hamon-Millers shop to look at Chris Robinson's Road-and-Tunnel Slag marble machine. Also at this show, I got to talk with Les Jones at the table next to Chris' and mine. March 2004 was the first "Marble Crazy" that I demonstrated at. It was here that I had further discussions with Les at the Holiday Inn (a Pelt collector "Ted" was in attendance). Les bought some of my marbles at 50-cents a piece. He told me he knew someone who would be interested in a few of these. Les and Ted came to the Moon to see the machine. Amana 2004 was the first year that I brought Shamrock Marbles (and the machine). I dropped my marble case off in Les' room and walked around the building. Les bought a few marbles. I met Bill Tow for the first time. David Chamberlain was across the hall and we had our first of many conversations. I picked up Chris Robinson's machine from John Hamon-Miller in the west parking lot. ------------------------- Now, here is a link to my GlassArtists dot Org page: http://www.glassartists.org/Gal5447_shamrockmarbles_s_Gallery.asp You can see some April 2004 marbles. These were created after further discussions with Les Jones. Up to this point, most marbles were pee-wee patches or simple swirls. --------------------- Any questions? Sincerely, John McCormick "Shamrock Marbles" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Chamberlain Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 I'd say that pretty much encapsulates John's illustrious history with his marbles but I'd still prefer to refer to them as precise little gems. Also if you're checking in I'm always receptive to another mailing; maybe after the Holidays.....David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m!b$ Posted December 10, 2010 Report Share Posted December 10, 2010 This is the only John McCormick marble I have. Slightly under 21/32". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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