1DanS Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 7/8" with a regular pontil. I believe it is from Navarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 egads ... is that a clean looking marble .... niceeee ... bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 picture perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I would assume it should have had a melted pontil???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1DanS Posted September 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Not all of this type of marble has a melted pontil. Some of the pontils were clean enough there was no need to melt them. I have seen some, but very few that still have the original pontil. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I have some with very tiny smooth pinpoint pontils that did not need to be melted. That is the first I have seen with a "Regular" pontil. Very interesting for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wediscount2 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Dan, looks to me like you have a hand gathered hand made marble from one of the early American marble making companies. It could be a Navarre or a Leighton but more likely a M.F. Christensen, Akro Agate, Chrisrensen Agate, and maybe Peltier. Personally I think it is a Akro Agate as the purple looks like Akro glass. I think if it was a Navarre it would have more revolutions and a lot less bleed out once it got past the half way point. No matter what it is it is a super marble in pristine condition and a real prize. Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1DanS Posted September 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Interesting Ronnie; I have heard and considered the "hand gathered" theory of companies other the M.F.C.(but that is another subject), but have not heard the term hand gathered and handmade used for any glass companies other than those prior to M.F.C. Have you seen any type of pontil(s) on these companies marbles? Not doubting, just curious. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wediscount2 Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Interesting Ronnie; I have heard and considered the "hand gathered" theory of companies other the M.F.C.(but that is another subject), but have not heard the term hand gathered and handmade used for any glass companies other than those prior to M.F.C. Have you seen any type of pontil(s) on these companies marbles? Not doubting, just curious. thanks Dan, Yes for sure, A long time ago I put together a chronology of red slags starting with a hand made single pontil black brick and ending with the last of the Akro slags. The later was weak in it's red coloring. In between the black brick and the weak colored slag was a progression of about 40 or so marbles and I had them sequenced in 1 foam waffled layer of a large gun case. The primarily black brick started to take on a red cast and about the 10th or 12th marble was now the classic schoolhouse brick and about the 20th marble was a cherry red Akro Agate with no brick and a sweet number 9 or 6 and from about the 30th on they started getting weaker and weaker in other words cheaper and cheaper as marbles were losing their popularity and companies were cheapening up on their product to survive. Another case in point: About 28 years ago at the first or second Columbus show at the Lennox Inn (pretty sure the second) Earl Hogue a good friend of mine walked up to me and said Ronnie do you have any idea what this is and handed me a marble. That marble was a inch and a half single pontil Akro Agate Golden Onyx with Ox-Blood or AKA: Eggyolk Oxblood. I said yes I know what it is Earl and it is very rare. I asked Earl, is it for sale and he said yes and I said well Earl I can only give you a thousand dollars for it but it's worth a whole lot more than that. To make a long story short Earl sold it to Danny Turner from the Running Rabbit auction house for either $3 thousand or $3500 cant remember. Scott Patrick knows the picker that found the marble and sold it to Earl. What I'm trying to say is I think a lot of the older larger marble factories employed immigrant master glass craftsmen from overseas and they hand made marbles while the companies they worked for were setting up their new modern machines to mass produce marbles. Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 I think Dan was asking if you had seen any with a regular pontil which means to me they were worked off a glass cane or rough punty, Not sheared like the ones you mention. I would love to see any other pics of American marbles with regular pontils. This is a first for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1DanS Posted September 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Yes, that was what I was asking, should have been clearer. Here is another one I used to have. I believe it was 15/16", but my memory aint what it use to be. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 The one on the left looks like a non-melted regular pontil, on the right is 'melted' Opposite view. Whether they were made in OH or not I can't say for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 left marble is interesting for sure. Just doesn't quite have the look of one of Leightons marbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronmarbles Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 I have some just like this from the Navarre plant as well as Barberton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 with the same pontil mark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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