Patches ? Still trying to get my eye in.....

[Edward]

Tried looking through the list but so difficult to establish where when and what these are.

Thank you for looking

Edward

[Ric]

It's a little hard to tell from just these pics, but the first one looks like it might be a Vitro, while the second looks foreign.

[Edward]

Thanks Ric...will try taking better pics tomorrow

[Chad G.]

Hard to tell by the pics but I think the second one is Vacor(Mega), made in Mexico.

[Edward]

Here are some better pics....All without scratches or chips....if you see what looks like a scratch it is merely a reflection.

Sizes : both 21mm

The second one has a small hole...but not at the pole

[wvrons]

I agree the first one is probably Vitro. The second one is foreign to the US. Probably from Imperial or Asian made. The hole is from an air or gas bubble that opened up or popped.  Common with marbles of poorly cooked or seedy glass. 

[Steph]

I think Vacor Sunset on the first.

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[Steph]

With the two ribbons I am getting a Vacor feel on the second one also,  but I can't place the style name.