Black Slag

[Fire1981]

As a painter and artist there has always been the question if black and white are colors. If there is a true black then one needs to recognize there is a true white. If white isn’t recognized as a color then black should be dismissed as well if applies to an ID. Example: If a Pop Eye didn’t have a white ribbon it would be a what ? I’m curious if glass Alchemist from Germany fleeing WW1 or WW11 could have had some kind of formula In producing black glass. Fact or Fiction: Where machine made marbles made so kids didn’t play orb buy Benningtons from Germany ? 

[wvrons]

Fiction. Machine made marbles were made because it was a thousand times cheaper to make them by machine,.  Handmade marbles are handmade from a glass cane. Depending on the marble size, you might get four or six marbles from a cane. Gather and make a cane, cut four marbles off, maybe 15 minutes for four marbles. Machine made marbles are 5/8 size about 250 per minute.  Twelve to twenty marbles per hour or 15,000 per hour ?  

 There are glass recipes for black glass.  Most of actual black glass is from raw batch glass. Not from cullet which most all companies switched to as competition came along. 

[Tommy]

12 minutes ago, wvrons said:

Fiction. Machine made marbles were made because it was a thousand times cheaper to make them by machine,.  Handmade marbles are handmade from a glass cane. Depending on the marble size, you might get four or six marbles from a cane. Gather and make a cane, cut four marbles off, maybe 15 minutes for four marbles. Machine made marbles are 5/8 size about 250 per minute.  Twelve to twenty marbles per hour or 15,000 per hour ?  

 There are glass recipes for black glass.  Most of actual black glass is from raw batch glass. Not from cullet which most all companies switched to as competition came along. 

Thanks Ron 👊..so is it safe to say the earlier the marble the better chance of getting a true black because they were actually making the colors with a formula . Is that why some of the early marbles don't have the color bleeding 🤔 as you say whole milk vs 2% ..well since I'm asking ...is cullet what they bought from glass manufacturers ? 

Great thread ......👍

 

[Dave 13]

Hi this one is a newer HM ,and it has what appears to be black glass to me 

[wvrons]

Cullet is scrap glass.  Can be many forms. whiskey bottles, tail light lens, soda bottles, beer bottles, Fenton and many other art glass companies, Vitrolite, Wissmach, etc. A long list of scrap glass.  Gabbert glass in Williamstown WV specializes in nothing but resale of scrap glass.  Ravenswood Novelty's main opaque white cullet was Ponds Cold Creme jars.  But just not any glass can be mixed. It has to be the right coefficient to put them together. If the coefficient is to far apart, all the marbles will fracture. That is what happened to the Champion Furnace marbles. They knew that and planned on it. But it never worked at cleaning out the furnace.   

[Tommy]

1 hour ago, wvrons said:

Cullet is scrap glass.  Can be many forms. whiskey bottles, tail light lens, soda bottles, beer bottles, Fenton and many other art glass companies, Vitrolite, Wissmach, etc. A long list of scrap glass.  Gabbert glass in Williamstown WV specializes in nothing but resale of scrap glass.  Ravenswood Novelty's main opaque white cullet was Ponds Cold Creme jars.  But just not any glass can be mixed. It has to be the right coefficient to put them together. If the coefficient is to far apart, all the marbles will fracture. That is what happened to the Champion Furnace marbles. They knew that and planned on it. But it never worked at cleaning out the furnace.   

And again thank you for that clarification for me ...that's kinda what I figured that's a cool fact about the cold cream jars...👍

[Fire1981]

WOW ! Once again. Thank you Ron 👍

[Peltier Mibber]

On 2/11/2022 at 3:06 PM, Alan said:

If you Maglite it, it will be purple glass.

X2

Most likely dark purple.