is this considered a blackie?

[Jeremysvt]

[Ric]

No, this is a Black Line All Red. The most common Blackies have the same color on both poles, with a (usually) much thicker black band around the middle.

[Jeremysvt]

10 minutes ago, Ric said:

No, this is a Black Line All Red. The most common Blackies have the same color on both poles, with a (usually) much thicker black band around the middle.

ok then is this a blackie as no red? thnaks

[Ric]

1 hour ago, Jeremysvt said:

ok then is this a blackie as no red? thnaks

Not a Blackie. It looks like a odd Tiger Eye.

[Al Oregon]

Randy G's (RIP) picture - Blackies in top sections, Whities in bottom sections.

 

[Jeremysvt]

39 minutes ago, Al Oregon said:

Randy G's (RIP) picture - Blackies in top sections, Whities in bottom sections.

 

thanks.  

[wvrons]

Vitro Blackie has a black or dark band around the center with the same color patches on each side or each pole. Also there are Anti Blackies and Reverse Blackies. 

[Jeremysvt]

19 minutes ago, wvrons said:

Vitro Blackie has a black or dark band around the center with the same color patches on each side or each pole. Also there are Anti Blackies and Reverse Blackies. 

THANKS.   I found this and checking it out.. http://www.gaiser.org/vitro/

[wvrons]

Vitro guide made by Kevin Roberts with help of Chuck Brandstetter, myself and others. It was and still is originally posted on All About Marbles for many years(probably 12-15 years). It has been copied other places with and without permission.  Probably the best Vitro guide on the internet. It describes Blackies well. Plus many other Vitro marbles. No guide anyplace will describe and picture all the different marbles Vitro made for 56 years at millions per week. There is a big difference between Blackie and Black Line All Red.  Blackie has nothing to do with any All Red. Black Line All Red is the earliest All Red. After some years the black or dark line around the middle of the All Reds disappeared. The black or dark line around the middle was eliminated to cut cost. Competition causes cost cutting. Cost cutting and quality goes down. Less colors added to the marbles.  

Black Line All Red

ALL Red

Blackie

Anti Blackie

Reverse Blackie

Whitie  

Tiger Eyes

Aquamarine

Different Conquerors

Superior

Tri Lite

 Buttermilk

 

And many more Vitro named marbles. Each one has certain requirements to be the named marbles.  I think there are 55 to 60 different named Vitro marbles. Vitro probably made 500 or a thousand different marbles or maybe more ? Some were named by the Vitro Company and some were named by collectors. 

This above holds true for many of the US machine made marble companies. Peltier named marbles are in the hundreds.  Many marbles have a name for a reason. Vitro named the All Red. Why ???????  Red was always kids favorite color. Vitro wanted the kids to see red when a marble rolled or was shot. So they made sure each All Red marble had a red patch on it. They named those marbles All Reds. When a All Red rolls red always flashes. Black LIne All Reds and then All Reds plus Conquerors types are a couple of the largest numbers of marbles Vitro produced steady over all the years.   Black Line All Red and All Red are different marbles.  One word or sometimes one letter makes a difference. Rainbo or Rainbow = two different companies and very different marbles.  

[Jeremysvt]

7 hours ago, wvrons said:

Vitro guide made by Kevin Roberts with help of Chuck Brandstetter, myself and others. It was and still is originally posted on All About Marbles for many years(probably 12-15 years). It has been copied other places with and without permission.  Probably the best Vitro guide on the internet. It describes Blackies well. Plus many other Vitro marbles. No guide anyplace will describe and picture all the different marbles Vitro made for 56 years at millions per week. There is a big difference between Blackie and Black Line All Red.  Blackie has nothing to do with any All Red. Black Line All Red is the earliest All Red. After some years the black or dark line around the middle of the All Reds disappeared. The black or dark line around the middle was eliminated to cut cost. Competition causes cost cutting. Cost cutting and quality goes down. Less colors added to the marbles.  

Black Line All Red

ALL Red

Blackie

Anti Blackie

Reverse Blackie

Whitie  

Tiger Eyes

Aquamarine

Different Conquerors

Superior

Tri Lite

 Buttermilk

 

And many more Vitro named marbles. Each one has certain requirements to be the named marbles.  I think there are 55 to 60 different named Vitro marbles. Vitro probably made 500 or a thousand different marbles or maybe more ? Some were named by the Vitro Company and some were named by collectors. 

This above holds true for many of the US machine made marble companies. Peltier named marbles are in the hundreds.  Many marbles have a name for a reason. Vitro named the All Red. Why ???????  Red was always kids favorite color. Vitro wanted the kids to see red when a marble rolled or was shot. So they made sure each All Red marble had a red patch on it. They named those marbles All Reds. When a All Red rolls red always flashes. Black LIne All Reds and then All Reds plus Conquerors types are a couple of the largest numbers of marbles Vitro produced steady over all the years.   Black Line All Red and All Red are different marbles.  One word or sometimes one letter makes a difference. Rainbo or Rainbow = two different companies and very different marbles.  

Wow thanks!  I was wondering why called all red when not all red lol. All these names!

[Da Roberto]

19 minutes ago, Jeremysvt said:

Wow grazie! Mi chiedevo perché chiamasse tutto rosso quando non tutto rosso lol. Tutti questi nomi!

Because when the marble is rolled, it looks all red, which is why it is called that

[wvrons]

A machine made total 100% red marble would be a game marble. The kids knew game marbles were plentiful and they did not collect or play with them. So why would the Vitro Company name, and go to the extra cost, to specially package and advertise solid red marbles ? Maybe it should have been Always Red or Red Flasher or others. But they chose All Red, maybe because it was cheaper to print, less space on a header ? Maybe because all the marbles in that bag had red ? Maybe All Red was easy for kids to read and spell ?  There are a million of bags available today labeled Vitro All Red Marbles. Some old, some up to 1986. The All red was one of Vitro's most produced marbles. So the play on the All Red name must have worked. The kids understood it and that was what the Vitro Co. was after. 

When a All Red marble rolled, kids saw red color.  

[Steph]

 

On 4/2/2022 at 9:25 AM, Jeremysvt said:

ok then is this a blackie as no red? thnaks

 

On 4/2/2022 at 10:57 AM, Ric said:

Not a Blackie. It looks like a odd Tiger Eye.

Agreed.