Jeremysvt Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 The very clean 9 on #2 and #4 makes me lean toward MFC on those. #1 and #3 look different. The extra color in #1. The different texture and slight wobbliness of the 9 in #3. What do the cutline ends look like on all 4? That could be enlightening. If I sometimes sound less than definitive when I agree to call something MFC even on 9's as sweet and simple and clean as #2 and #4, it's because I am aware that MFC, CAC, Akro and Pelt all made handgathered slags. And then there are foreign versions. When I see a bit of wobbliness in the 9 I lean toward Akro. But I don't have a clue whether Pelt's handgathered pre-feathering version stood out in any way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremysvt Posted April 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Steph said: The very clean 9 on #2 and #4 makes me lean toward MFC on those. #1 and #3 look different. The extra color in #1. The different texture and slight wobbliness of the 9 in #3. What do the cutline ends look like on all 4? That could be enlightening. If I sometimes sound less than definitive when I agree to call something MFC even on 9's as sweet and simple and clean as #2 and #4, it's because I am aware that MFC, CAC, Akro and Pelt all made handgathered slags. And then there are foreign versions. When I see a bit of wobbliness in the 9 I lean toward Akro. But I don't have a clue whether Pelt's handgathered pre-feathering version stood out in any way. and these four make me think Akro maybe one MFC... I will post more of the first 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremysvt Posted April 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 Here are opposite pole views of the first 4 OG in order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 41 minutes ago, Steph said: The very clean 9 on #2 and #4 makes me lean toward MFC on those. #1 and #3 look different. The extra color in #1. The different texture and slight wobbliness of the 9 in #3. What do the cutline ends look like on all 4? That could be enlightening. If I sometimes sound less than definitive when I agree to call something MFC even on 9's as sweet and simple and clean as #2 and #4, it's because I am aware that MFC, CAC, Akro and Pelt all made handgathered slags. And then there are foreign versions. When I see a bit of wobbliness in the 9 I lean toward Akro. But I don't have a clue whether Pelt's handgathered pre-feathering version stood out in any way. Pelt pre feathers slag.....😲🤔 any Pics? I know slags are tricky...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremysvt Posted April 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tommy said: Pelt pre feathers slag.....😲🤔 any Pics? I know slags are tricky...lol. more pics of which one? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tommy said: Pelt pre feathers slag.....😲🤔 any Pics? I know slags are tricky...lol. My memory is cloudy. I can't remember if I should have pix or not. This is a question I would fire off to Mike Barton if he were still with us. Obviously the very early Pelt production has been supplanted in our memory by the very distinctive feathered slags. I'll do a bit of browsing to see if I can come up with examples. I started a thread a couple of years ago about handgathered Pelts. We got a total of two examples in it -- no slags. But I just bumped it. Maybe be can pull some slags out of people's personal archives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremysvt Posted April 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Steph said: My memory is cloudy. I can't remember if I should have pix or not. This is a question I would fire off to Mike Barton if he were still with us. Obviously the very early Pelt production has been supplanted in our memory by the very distinctive feathered slags. I'll do a bit of browsing to see if I can come up with examples. I started a thread a couple of years ago about handgathered Pelts. We got a total of two examples in it -- no slags. But I just bumped it. Maybe be can pull some slags out of people's personal archives. i believe this one is a pelt and i sem to stumbled upon a trove of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 I'm getting an Akro vibe but......lol 22 minutes ago, Jeremysvt said: i believe this one is a pelt and i sem to stumbled upon a trove of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, Jeremysvt said: i believe this one is a pelt and i sem to stumbled upon a trove of them... Akro here also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted April 17, 2022 Report Share Posted April 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, Steph said: My memory is cloudy. I can't remember if I should have pix or not. This is a question I would fire off to Mike Barton if he were still with us. Obviously the very early Pelt production has been supplanted in our memory by the very distinctive feathered slags. I'll do a bit of browsing to see if I can come up with examples. I started a thread a couple of years ago about handgathered Pelts. We got a total of two examples in it -- no slags. But I just bumped it. Maybe be can pull some slags out of people's personal archives. You rock Steph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff54 Posted August 7, 2022 Report Share Posted August 7, 2022 I have 69 marbles that Mike Barton @migbar sent me in 2004, but asked that I did not tell anybody, he didn't want others hounding him. RIP my good friend Mike. They are mostly rejected, cracked, out of round or; that range from Hand-Gathered slags, a few gobs that kicked out the rollers, some oblong and a couple of speres to Champ Jr's. A few are the earliest opaque swirls, others transparent striped and the smallest of some presumably, Miller's peewee verities. Pretty much from earliest made until decline rejects. I am not prepared to take photos currently and other than a few, nothing to get excited about. However, in case these were posted once before but lost currently; here's a few scans he Emailed me in 2004, (He did not request to keep these scans confidential though) of his personal collection in the order he'd sent the scans: "Swirly Peltier's" is what he called them And "Evin's marbles"(His son).. 'Swirly Peltier's" I think but can't recall, the 1st and 2nd have an orange slag but think it's the same one. "Evin's marbles" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 7, 2022 Report Share Posted August 7, 2022 What a treasure, Jeff. Those really deserve their own thread. Thanks for filling in some gaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremysvt Posted August 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Jeff54 said: I have 69 marbles that Mike Barton @migbar sent me in 2004, but asked that I did not tell anybody, he didn't want others hounding him. RIP my good friend Mike. They are mostly rejected, cracked, out of round or; that range from Hand-Gathered slags, a few gobs that kicked out the rollers, some oblong and a couple of speres to Champ Jr's. A few are the earliest opaque swirls, others transparent striped and the smallest of some presumably, Miller's peewee verities. Pretty much from earliest made until decline rejects. I am not prepared to take photos currently and other than a few, nothing to get excited about. However, in case these were posted once before but lost currently; here's a few scans he Emailed me in 2004, (He did not request to keep these scans confidential though) of his personal collection in the order he'd sent the scans: "Swirly Peltier's" is what he called them And "Evin's marbles"(His son).. 'Swirly Peltier's" I think but can't recall, the 1st and 2nd have an orange slag but think it's the same one. "Evin's marbles" some real beauties there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted August 7, 2022 Report Share Posted August 7, 2022 Good Old Mig Bar 🔥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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