Is this not a pontil?

[StevenJustSteven]

Is this a pontil or? 

[Ric]

No, it's not a pontil, just an imperfection on a wholly machine made marble.

[Tommy]

Agree 👍🏼 

[StevenJustSteven]

Thanks guys. 

[Alan]

Not.  Don't look for them and they won't deceive you.

[StevenJustSteven]

On 6/11/2024 at 7:47 PM, Alan said:

Not.  Don't look for them and they won't deceive you.

Although I understand what you mean and agree, I don’t agree in this instance. It atleast indirectly. I wasn’t looking for it. Actually I noticed the 9 located on the other pole. 
i first posted it in a group on Facebook asking if it was an opaque. Someone on there set me straight. So far everyone agrees that it is not a pontil. Maybe if I understood more about how they were made I would understand how it happened accidently by a machine. It just looks like it’s been affected by hands not machine. Almost like a weld. Almosted melted looking, but not like the melted pontil. 

[davesnothere]

2 hours ago, StevenJustSteven said:

Although I understand what you mean and agree, I don’t agree in this instance. It atleast indirectly. I wasn’t looking for it. Actually I noticed the 9 located on the other pole. 
i first posted it in a group on Facebook asking if it was an opaque. Someone on there set me straight. So far everyone agrees that it is not a pontil. Maybe if I understood more about how they were made I would understand how it happened accidently by a machine. It just looks like it’s been affected by hands not machine. Almost like a weld. Almosted melted looking, but not like the melted pontil. 

 

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[Alan]

9 hours ago, StevenJustSteven said:

ough I understand what you mean and agree, I don’t agree in this instance. It atleast indirectly. I wasn’t looking for it. Actually I noticed the 9 located on the other pole. 
i first posted it in a group on Facebook asking if it was an opaque. Someone on there set me straight. So far everyone agrees that it is not a pontil. Maybe if I understood more about how they were made I would understand how it happened accidently by a machine. It just looks like it’s been affected by hands not machine. Almost like a weld. Almosted melted looking, but not like the melted pontil.

Keep in mind that when a machine made ingot is cut, the cut is not always a clean one.  That is because shear dull over usage.  A small string of glass can and will stretch a bit from the rollers until it parts.  That is where "drizzle" comes from.  Its a manufacturing defect.  When the hot ingot hit the rollers trailing that string of glass, it starts spinning immediately.  After all, that is what the rollers are for.  That "string" can immediately form a loop.  That loop can be mistaken for a "9".  These days - it often is.  People go looking for a "9", a "pontil", "aventurine" etc.  Looking enough - they will "find" them.

Its important to look at the whole marble.  Look at the glass and the glass motion.  Glass transparency and opacity.

Also, its helpful to know how cane-cut marbles are made.  And how terms that are commonly used (like "pontil") are actually misused and misunderstood.  >99% of all marbles that people refer to a "pontil" never had a punty attached to it.  Understanding the process helps accurately identify marbles.

[davesnothere]

Alan that's a great explanation and I've never knew that's how drizzle cam about. Thanks

[StevenJustSteven]

On 6/13/2024 at 10:36 AM, Alan said:

Keep in mind that when a machine made ingot is cut, the cut is not always a clean one.  That is because shear dull over usage.  A small string of glass can and will stretch a bit from the rollers until it parts.  That is where "drizzle" comes from.  Its a manufacturing defect.  When the hot ingot hit the rollers trailing that string of glass, it starts spinning immediately.  After all, that is what the rollers are for.  That "string" can immediately form a loop.  That loop can be mistaken for a "9".  These days - it often is.  People go looking for a "9", a "pontil", "aventurine" etc.  Looking enough - they will "find" them.

Its important to look at the whole marble.  Look at the glass and the glass motion.  Glass transparency and opacity.

Also, its helpful to know how cane-cut marbles are made.  And how terms that are commonly used (like "pontil") are actually misused and misunderstood.  >99% of all marbles that people refer to a "pontil" never had a punty attached to it.  Understanding the process helps accurately identify marbles.

Wow. Thank you for taking the time to explain this. I must have caught you at just the right time. I understand how annoying it must get having to explain seeminlyijg the same thing over and over. I appreciate that you took the time to help me understand. Thank you.

[akroorka]

On 6/11/2024 at 8:05 PM, StevenJustSteven said:

Is this a pontil or? 

 

You came and got answers--nothing better!

Marble--On!!