What pre 1940 West Virginia marbles

[BRBLL74]

I have many UV light glowing marbles.  I think they are Akro.  What other WV pre 1945 used uranium glass in there marbles?

[Chad G.]

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                                             I believe all marble manufacturers used uranium glass @ one time or another

[davesnothere]

Some alleys not many. Same with peltier usually just a ribbon shows up.

Kokomo I believe tend to have a lot.

Just a couple I'm sure of. Now there is uranium which is  green and then cadium is another color altogether, depending on short or long range uv light the colors will vary.

 

 

[Alan]

Uranium glass is still used today.  It is not rare.  It is not an indicator of age or value.  It not the thing that Facebook has hyped it to be.

[davesnothere]

On 2/24/2025 at 2:33 PM, Alan said:

Uranium glass is still used today.  It is not rare.  It is not an indicator of age or value.  It not the thing that Facebook has hyped it to be.

Very little is used today not enough to worry about pretty sure the op is just trying to learn.

 

And are re you trying to say akro ades have no more value just because they glow.  Most marbles that are reactive get more money on ebay.

I Really notice how negative the replies are in general not just yours.

This group is not welcoming of new people and unwilling to educate Complete newbies, but more of a shoo fly mentality. 

I love old toys and people who collect them but not so much here.

 

[Alan]

55 minutes ago, davesnothere said:

Very little is used today not enough to worry about pretty sure the op is just trying to learn.

 

And are re you trying to say akro ades have no more value just because they glow.  Most marbles that are reactive get more money on ebay.

I Really notice how negative the replies are in general not just yours.

This group is not welcoming of new people and unwilling to educate Complete newbies, but more of a shoo fly mentality. 

I love old toys and people who collect them but not so much here.

 

If there is something not factual in my response, I welcome quotes of it.  A statement that does not enthusiastically agree with an assumption isn't negative or a "shoofly mentality", as you put it.

It is a fact to note that Facebook is awash with folks who energetically preach that any marble that has some reaction to UV light is automatically valuable and sought.  This is a relatively recent development in the past ~2 years.  I am amazed at how prevalent it is and how quick it has spread.  People post the very common:  "I have some marbles that I bought/belonged to someone.  Are any valuable?"  These days the most common reply is "Hit it it with UV light to find the good ones!"  No attempt at ID.  No observation on grading.   In my opinion, this steers novice collector in a direction that most will come to regret in time.  In my observation, it also supports a higher paying price by novices for modern and older common pieces - a price that won't be sustained later on in their collecting experience when they go to sell it.  It does nothing to educate.  Just UV and money in so many cases.

If it is considered "negative" to advise novices that the Facebook UV hype is over-promotion is therefore a poor collecting direction to go - then the experienced collectors who have seen and learned a great deal over decades can fold their tent and leave novices to learn a hard lesson on their own.  It will save time in educating on ID and grading.  It will avoid teaching why a marble is a Master instead of an Akro or Vitro.

How many ID threads do we see where the new-ish poster posts many terribly blurry UV pics taken in the dark (cameras simply can't focus).  Why not help them look at and identify marbles in the light ?  UV is not the primary (or secondary) ID characteristic that so many have been led to believe on FB.  In my opinion, that UV emphasis doesn't help them, and those who encouraged that approach didn't help them.

The OP had a valid question.  I was helping them to not see UV as a good approach to ID.  Then possibly post a few pics and help them with ID and other needs using experience and facts.

The best way to help people is to help them shift from mistaken understandings early in their collecting experience.  Just like folks thinking that damaged or wonky machine mades are handmades or transitionals (which we see a fair amount of).  

I'm not seeking to help those who don't want my help.

[Melissa]

I think newbies are super fixated on little things like uranium, pontils, diaper folds, etc. I know I was this way in the beginning.  I started collecting because I noticed some marbles glowed under a black light and thought it was cool. Little did I know Id one day be a real collector. 🤣 I even remember a certain someone (Alan that’s you!) correcting me several times on this very issue.  

That said, I agree 100% with Alan in that UV marbles don’t increase value and rarely help in identification. It’s just an added bonus to collecting but means nothing. 

[Tommy]

Thank you Alan for all you do for the marble community you nailed it ...sooo.., I peek on Facebook and don't even know what they are talking about on the smallest issue...I have not been collecting long compared to the o.g. mibsters that give  their time and knowledge freely, everything i have learned about marbles has come from this page and I consider myself pretty educated now  .with that said if you are to soft for the truth don't ask ..all the info you need to identify 90 percent of mis are in these pages .so.....if ya really want to know ..

Lastly I was told when I started condition...condition....condition...

And if u.v.mibs are so rare I better start selling all these game marbles ...I'm gonna be rolling in dough

[Chad G.]

1 hour ago, Tommy said:

Thank you Alan for all you do for the marble community you nailed it ...sooo.., I peek on Facebook and don't even know what they are talking about on the smallest issue...I have not been collecting long compared to the o.g. mibsters that give  their time and knowledge freely, everything i have learned about marbles has come from this page and I consider myself pretty educated now  .with that said if you are to soft for the truth don't ask ..all the info you need to identify 90 percent of mis are in these pages .so.....if ya really want to know ..

Lastly I was told when I started condition...condition....condition...

And if u.v.mibs are so rare I better start selling all these game marbles ...I'm gonna be rolling in dough

Dough   rolling  game marbles   ....  You're killin me man.

[Shamrock Marbles]

On 2/24/2025 at 11:08 AM, BRBLL74 said:

I have many UV light glowing marbles.  I think they are Akro.  What other WV pre 1945 used uranium glass in there marbles?

Welcome.

Can you post some pictures of your UV marbles?

There is a bunch of experience here that can help you identify quickly.

The identifying curve is quite steep. It can be very frustrating and fruitless.

My most favorite UV marbles are Peltier “feathered” Slags. Followed by the Akro pattern varieties.

Looking forward to your continued engagement.

John

Shamrock Marbles

[davesnothere]

12 hours ago, Alan said:

If there is something not factual in my response, I welcome quotes of it.  A statement that does not enthusiastically agree with an assumption isn't negative or a "shoofly mentality", as you put it.

It is a fact to note that Facebook is awash with folks who energetically preach that any marble that has some reaction to UV light is automatically valuable and sought.  This is a relatively recent development in the past ~2 years.  I am amazed at how prevalent it is and how quick it has spread.  People post the very common:  "I have some marbles that I bought/belonged to someone.  Are any valuable?"  These days the most common reply is "Hit it it with UV light to find the good ones!"  No attempt at ID.  No observation on grading.   In my opinion, this steers novice collector in a direction that most will come to regret in time.  In my observation, it also supports a higher paying price by novices for modern and older common pieces - a price that won't be sustained later on in their collecting experience when they go to sell it.  It does nothing to educate.  Just UV and money in so many cases.

If it is considered "negative" to advise novices that the Facebook UV hype is over-promotion is therefore a poor collecting direction to go - then the experienced collectors who have seen and learned a great deal over decades can fold their tent and leave novices to learn a hard lesson on their own.  It will save time in educating on ID and grading.  It will avoid teaching why a marble is a Master instead of an Akro or Vitro.

How many ID threads do we see where the new-ish poster posts many terribly blurry UV pics taken in the dark (cameras simply can't focus).  Why not help them look at and identify marbles in the light ?  UV is not the primary (or secondary) ID characteristic that so many have been led to believe on FB.  In my opinion, that UV emphasis doesn't help them, and those who encouraged that approach didn't help them.

The OP had a valid question.  I was helping them to not see UV as a good approach to ID.  Then possibly post a few pics and help them with ID and other needs using experience and facts.

The best way to help people is to help them shift from mistaken understandings early in their collecting experience.  Just like folks thinking that damaged or wonky machine mades are handmades or transitionals (which we see a fair amount of).  

I'm not seeking to help those who don't want my help.

Fair enough.  My thoughts are even if it a redundant practice,  it still leaves room to educate and help .

Just observation but the person with the AV brick lately , no one explained that she had a patch marble it could have elevated her understanding a bit.

Maybe I'll start posting links for the fresh collectors simple explanations available here.

Thanks I appreciate your replies!

[davesnothere]

Here's a fun thread here for the OP

 

[akroorka]

8 hours ago, davesnothere said:

Just observation but the person with the AV brick lately , no one explained that she had a patch marble it could have elevated her understanding a bit.

 

The thread with the AV brick received an ID from me--but this is history. 
I do not fight my way through the rubble to stand tuff on any ID, I give what I can and then back off.
I know what I see, and I post it. I generally ask for more opinions. Whether I know that I am right or not.
If this AV Brick thread got your Ire up--I welcomed them back and they will be back, due to some respect shown to this collector.
 

22 hours ago, davesnothere said:

This group is not welcoming of new people and unwilling to educate Complete newbies, but more of a shoo fly mentality. 

 

This is a very hard thing for me to agree with, but I know where you are coming from.
Many of us here are not cheerleaders and just deal with facts that we have learned over the years. Some may take it personally when challenged but then again, we do not know him/her and how long of a passion this has been for them. 
This marble collecting thing could get quite nasty in the 80’s and 90’s and we had to fight for our lives. There is still some of that left in the darker corner of our old grey spider webbed minds.
The written word as I post it seems friendly to me to most who post here, and I am sure that it is the intention of all that post here—just friendly. 
We just all come from a different time and age on this board. 
Some like I, have three great grandbabies. Some who post are under twelve years old. The older ones may get cranky, and the younger ones may---well--- just be smart assed. Nothing that I have not been through before.
This is why We try to keep it clean here @TheMarbleConnection.
Keep them coming—the marbles and keep your written posts in check considering what I have said.
Marble—On!!
 

[davesnothere]

@akroorka I completely understand.  

Nah Nothing more then an irk. It's human to focus on making our point and sometimes we oversee the original intention of the poster.

I  would love to see a community of people who talk marbles all day , I've and the rest have  probably seeing to many id's given without a nod back .

I have two grand children that hopefully will be on here soon and they will be well versed on vacor 😋