Chad G. Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 All Veiligglas, made in Amsterdam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 2 minutes ago, LevvyPoole said: And finally, this beautiful little Robin. This ones a cat eye IMO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevvyPoole Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 45 minutes ago, Chad G. said: This ones a cat eye IMO Yeah, I only put that up as it was the centre Marble came with the solitaire board and I wanted to show everything as I received it 😀 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted May 3 Report Share Posted May 3 My contribution for comparison sake. Of note: plastic round board instead of wooden. As far as where the marbles were made? Hard to say. Much like swirls and catseyes were made in the USA by multiple companies, it's entirely possible there was more than one Euro manufacturer cranking out (somewhat generic) wirepulls as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevvyPoole Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 14 hours ago, Chad G. said: All Veiligglas made in Amsterdam With respect, and for the sake of this discussion- I'd challenge that the front 3 are what we know to be veiligglas and the other 4 might not be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevvyPoole Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 8 hours ago, I'llhavethat1 said: My contribution for comparison sake. Of note: plastic round board instead of wooden. As far as where the marbles were made? Hard to say. Much like swirls and catseyes were made in the USA by multiple companies, it's entirely possible there was more than one Euro manufacturer cranking out (somewhat generic) wirepulls as well. Thanks for this, interesting to see similar marbles coming with the bakelite (I think that's what it is) board. I wonder when this one was being produced and sold? Maybe it was the same time as the wooden one. I'm mainly pushing this angle because I think it could provide a useful lead, as H.P. Gibsons are still in existence as Gibsons Games and apparently still as a family run business. I don't have the head-space to do it justice at the moment, but perhaps @shiroaiko or someone else interested in this topic, could contact them to see if they have retained any historical records about their suppliers? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 4 hours ago, LevvyPoole said: With respect, and for the sake of this discussion- I'd challenge that the front 3 are what we know to be veiligglas and the other 4 might not be. They are all Veiligglas, I got them all from @Mojo in the Netherlands the three front ones just have an outstanding design, rarely you will come upon a Veli W 3 different colored ribbons in the matrix, I believe @Nantucketdink has a few examples. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevvyPoole Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 5 hours ago, Chad G. said: They are all Veiligglas, I got them all from @Mojo in the Netherlands the three front ones just have an outstanding design, rarely you will come upon a Veli W 3 different colored ribbons in the matrix, I believe @Nantucketdink has a few examples. Fair enough, and I would never want to sound like I was accusing anyone on here of misleading others. As you can probably see from my profile, I've not been on here long, and am still early in learning this hobby. Looking through historical threads it's evident that there's quite a bit of confusion about this topic, and maybe quite a few folks are no longer comfortable attributing all European wirepulls to Veiligglas...and that's why this debate in on and I'm finding it fascinating and appreciate the contributions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted May 4 Report Share Posted May 4 7 minutes ago, LevvyPoole said: Fair enough, and I would never want to sound like I was accusing anyone on here of misleading others. As you can probably see from my profile, I've not been on here long, and am still early in learning this hobby. Looking through historical threads it's evident that there's quite a bit of confusion about this topic, and maybe quite a few folks are no longer comfortable attributing all European wirepulls to Veiligglas...and that's why this debate in on and I'm finding it fascinating and appreciate the contributions. Yes, there has been a debate for some time, Amsterdam, Japan, etc. there was probably a myriad of companies producing very similar marbles. Packaging, yes the debate will go on until some more definitive paperwork (providence) comes along. More and more is being exposed all the time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 Here are some Veiligglas I got from Winnie (RIP) back in 2013. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 More of the 13/16" marble at 2 o'clock in the group. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 Here is the 3/4" marble at 4 o'clock in the group. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 On 5/4/2025 at 3:41 AM, LevvyPoole said: With respect, and for the sake of this discussion- I'd challenge that the front 3 are what we know to be veiligglas and the other 4 might not be. @Chad G. I think the back four marbles look quite different than the front three too. And while we may never figure these Euro wire pulls out, I think it's a stretch to assume that just because the marbles came from the Netherlands that they were made there. I got a few poly-mesh bags from Mojo with wirepulls that look quite a bit like those back four and while they may be Veiligglas, I am not convinced that they are. I wonder how confident @Mojo is about them being Veiligglas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 Here is the 13/16" marble from 6 o'clock in the group. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 Here is the 13/16" marble from 8 o'clock in the group. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 This one from 10 o'clock in the group is just shy of 3/16". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 Here is the 13/16" marble from 12 o'clock in the group. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted June 16 Report Share Posted June 16 Finally, here is the 13/16" from the center of the group. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevvyPoole Posted June 18 Report Share Posted June 18 On 6/16/2025 at 9:24 PM, Ric said: Finally, here is the 13/16" from the center of the group. Seeing this beauty gave me the encouragement I needed to make an offer on a lot that has 4 of these opaques & 6/7 transparent wirepulls (and about 60 other marbles that I could do without). Will post pics when they arrive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevvyPoole Posted Tuesday at 05:07 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:07 PM Finally ready to put up some more pictures and ensure this discussion slowly rumbles onwards. It's taken me a while to edit these. My current knowledge is leading me to put this group down as veiligglas, although I'm not quite sure about the 2 smaller blue and white ones (both 7/8). Individual pics to follow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted Tuesday at 06:07 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:07 PM 58 minutes ago, LevvyPoole said: My current knowledge is leading me to put this group down as veiligglas They all look Dutch to me, Megan. The white one upper left is very nice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted Tuesday at 06:12 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:12 PM With the new information that @shiroaiko has provided--lets call her in. @Mojo is on top of this type as well. Most look Dutch to me. I question the lower left and the one to the north east of it. Nice group! Marble--On!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevvyPoole Posted Tuesday at 06:36 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:36 PM I'll start with the 2 very similar blues. They both have a white line as well, however this is very faint within one, this one also has a large bubble. Faint striations can be seen on the surface of the clear glass on both. The white follows a similar pattern to the blue, however definitely deviates from the path of the blue line in both. Size 7/8. First 3 pics are same marble, next 2 are the other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevvyPoole Posted Tuesday at 06:37 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:37 PM 29 minutes ago, Ric said: They all look Dutch to me, Megan. The white one upper left is very nice! Yep - it's stunning, that one, hard to fully capture though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevvyPoole Posted Tuesday at 06:39 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:39 PM 31/32 Slight blue-ish hint to some of the surface white. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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