Extremely early lemonade oxblood?

[Fire1981]

Fair enough. But do know how to manipulate glass and turn it into a marble. This means that you know what formulas work and what won’t work 🔥

RAR

[Fire1981]

It sounds like Egg Yokes will now have to be sorted by early or late for ID’s 🔥

RAR

[et cetera]

Personally I think there is no reliable way to sort this type by age. Unless you are comparing HGs to MMs which would be an obvious clue in the timeline, these were all made around the same time.  Mid to late 20s is my guess - maybe into the early 30s.  Each batch of glass can vary in several ways and some batches turn out 'nicer' than others but are still all of the same era.  For example I've seen Akro's early Egg Yolk yellows vary - depending who is shoveling in perhaps inexact amounts of components into the furnace - and temperature fluctuations where the glass got too hot and darkens or has more muddys colors.  Sometimes it is a chemical reaction from certain components of various formulas or cullet. This has nothing to do with early or late - there was a variance with mass produced marbles, and there still is. That "Golden Oxblood" just looks like the product of what I just described. Not a different named marble from the regular Egg Yoke Ox. Just a slightly burnt example. Just my own opinion.  

[Fire1981]

Sounds like AV. Maybe the run was load with AV as apposed to one that wasn’t🔥

RAR

[Wolf]

3 hours ago, Alan said:

I have to ask where specifically you sourced this information from (I assume an Akro glass formula book) and the diagnostics that are used.

From Google: Yellow or Canary uranium glass, often called "Vaseline glass," is primarily colored by uranium oxide, while green uranium glass may contain additional elements like iron to achieve a green color.

"Yellow uranium glass, often called Vaseline glass, is generally considered a brighter glow under UV light and is highly sought after by collectors."

Robert Block says that they are hard to find. He's the only one that has any knowledge that they exist and he runs international auctions. 

Whatever it is, it's coming next week. All .66 of it and mint.

 

[Wolf]

1 hour ago, et cetera said:

Personally I think there is no reliable way to sort this type by age. Unless you are comparing HGs to MMs which would be an obvious clue in the timeline, these were all made around the same time.  Mid to late 20s is my guess - maybe into the early 30s.  Each batch of glass can vary in several ways and some batches turn out 'nicer' than others but are still all of the same era.  For example I've seen Akro's early Egg Yolk yellows vary - depending who is shoveling in perhaps inexact amounts of components into the furnace - and temperature fluctuations where the glass got too hot and darkens or has more muddys colors.  Sometimes it is a chemical reaction from certain components of various formulas or cullet. This has nothing to do with early or late - there was a variance with mass produced marbles, and there still is. That "Golden Oxblood" just looks like the product of what I just described. Not a different named marble from the regular Egg Yoke Ox. Just a slightly burnt example. Just my own opinion.  

An Akro identifier said that the "Golden Onyx Oxblood" is a known Akro run. Another dealer, Old Rare Marbles CEO said the name of this marble sounds right even though he's never seen one. I believe all 3 Marbles came from the same box and they might have 2 more friends coming soon.

[et cetera]

There is plenty of misinformation found using google - something I thought we who conduct in-depth research would know by now. Your short quotes are incomplete information and incorrect - Canary glass is not the same thing as the more modern blanket term "Vaseline glass."  None the less I digress to say again your marble has nothing to do with authentic Canary glass.  As far as your Golden Onyx Oxblood marble being a rare, documented and purposeful Akro product - I see no evidence of that.  You as the owner are free to call your possessions anything you wish, but it doesn't make it so in the rest of the world. I was able to copy a partial and correct explanation of the Canary/Flint/Lime/Vaseline research article shown below.  Do with this information as you wish. Sorry for the sizing and order which is backwards , but this site has the weirdest upload system.

[Wolf]

38 minutes ago, et cetera said:

There is plenty of misinformation found using google - something I thought we who conduct in-depth research would know by now. Your short quotes are incomplete information and incorrect - Canary glass is not the same thing as the more modern blanket term "Vaseline glass."  None the less I digress to say again your marble has nothing to do with authentic Canary glass.  As far as your Golden Onyx Oxblood marble being a rare, documented and purposeful Akro product - I see no evidence of that.  You as the owner are free to call your possessions anything you wish, but it doesn't make it so in the rest of the world. I was able to copy a partial and correct explanation of the Canary/Flint/Lime/Vaseline research article shown below.  Do with this information as you wish. Sorry for the sizing and order which is backwards , but this site has the weirdest upload system.

Have you seen any of those marbles before?

[Shamrock Marbles]

46 minutes ago, et cetera said:

There is plenty of misinformation found using google - something I thought we who conduct in-depth research would know by now. Your short quotes are incomplete information and incorrect - Canary glass is not the same thing as the more modern blanket term "Vaseline glass."  None the less I digress to say again your marble has nothing to do with authentic Canary glass.  As far as your Golden Onyx Oxblood marble being a rare, documented and purposeful Akro product - I see no evidence of that.  You as the owner are free to call your possessions anything you wish, but it doesn't make it so in the rest of the world. I was able to copy a partial and correct explanation of the Canary/Flint/Lime/Vaseline research article shown below.  Do with this information as you wish. Sorry for the sizing and order which is backwards , but this site has the weirdest upload system.

Thank you for your effort.

Honestly, I cannot give credence to an “article” where they use the term “anynonymous”.

First, that is not an actual word. Second, I would suspect they meant “synonymous”, if interpreting their context.

Obviously, these “researchers” did not do their due diligence. Definitely not a peer reviewed scholarly work.

Sad. 😢

[et cetera]

No problem Shamrock.  I agree there is a typographical error in this article as you point out above. How unfortunate that you dismiss the validity of this article on that point alone.  This article was written by the Vice President of The Vaseline Glass Collectors Club, Inc. and is highly respected in the glass collecting world. They have a wonderful website. To each their own. Enough said on this issue I think. 

[Fire1981]

No doubt. Bottom line. Unless you were there and making these Scrambled Egg Yokes and in charge of the run? Let’s go! It’s time to “Sort and Post”  I have one similar to the last one posted. It’s totally beat to CR@P but it’s mine. I hope it’s an Early one. We’ll see. 🔥

RAR

[Fire1981]

What about Lime,Cherry any other Ades? This should be a new thread. But are there Early and Late Ades as well 🔥

RAR

[Fire1981]

Last question tonight. Did Akro have UV lights in the factory 🔥

RAR

[Alan]

15 hours ago, Fire1981 said:

It sounds like Egg Yokes will now have to be sorted by early or late for ID’s 🔥

RAR

You are forgetting mid-years. And really, early mid- and late mid-years.

[Alan]

9 minutes ago, Alan said:

You are forgetting mid-years. And really, early mid- and late mid-years.

This is a form of junk science spewed by a Google AI bot, then seized upon by an inexperienced person who only has that to lean on. I suggest you defer trying to invent new specialized naming to a marble in front of people with decades of hands-on experience that tried to guide and advise you - and you continue to ignore.  It's the same glass/marble that I and several other people here have owned, handled and known for decades.  It may be new to you, but it isn't new to the rest of us.

[tkt]

On 5/29/2025 at 6:55 PM, Wolf said:

Hello. I have a question? What is it that I have here? I know it's a lemonade oxblood, but in this one, the glass is a bright yellow canary. Is this a very, very early lemonade oxblood? One that doesn't have iron mixed with the uranium glass? Thanks.

that is a beauty

 

[stonehenge4242]

I agree with Alan, it sounds like you already have your mind made up on what "age" this marble is. All the expertise and knowledge on here is blowing right past you.

 If you only want to believe Bob Block or Google, not anyone else, then you gain nothing by posting on here, IMHO. 

I also see you posted the same thread on AAM 

[akroorka]

I do not want to step in here--great discussion--keep it clean though.
Naming individuals that you may not agree with has no point in this conversation.
I know what the OG in this post is—a great marble—probably pre WW2.

The “very early” Akros were slags.
Nuff said.
Marble—On!!
 

[stonehenge4242]

35 minutes ago, akroorka said:

I do not want to step in here--great discussion--keep it clean though.
Naming individuals that you may not agree with has no point in this conversation.
I know what the OG in this post is—a great marble—probably pre WW2.

The “very early” Akros were slags.
Nuff said.
Marble—On!!
 

My apologies if I stepped out of bounds.

[akroorka]

2 hours ago, stonehenge4242 said:

My apologies if I stepped out of bounds.

You were on the edge my marble collecting friend. 
Back in the older days—this type of talk made marble collecting a bad thing to experience or be involved with. It made me step back for quite a few years.
 I am glad to be back but the inter fighting or lack of respect must end here.
I respect all opinions and learn from them as well.
I know what I know and respect what I do not know with input from anyone.
I just love this stuff and I learn every day.
Marble—On!!
 

[Wolf]

On 5/31/2025 at 10:10 PM, Fire1981 said:

No doubt. Bottom line. Unless you were there and making these Scrambled Egg Yokes and in charge of the run? Let’s go! It’s time to “Sort and Post”  I have one similar to the last one posted. It’s totally beat to CR@P but it’s mine. I hope it’s an Early one. We’ll see. 🔥

RAR

You have one of those oxbloods, too? The scrambled egg one that you call?

[Fire1981]

I'm dig'n. I'll post it when I find it.🔥

RAR

[Tommy]

Here is one i have 

[Wolf]

On 5/31/2025 at 10:10 PM, Fire1981 said:

No doubt. Bottom line. Unless you were there and making these Scrambled Egg Yokes and in charge of the run? Let’s go! It’s time to “Sort and Post”  I have one similar to the last one posted. It’s totally beat to CR@P but it’s mine. I hope it’s an Early one. We’ll see. 🔥

RAR

They traveled together. They are survivors.