Parmcat Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 What is this one called? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMarbles Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 That is an Indian marble. Nice find 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parmcat Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 1 hour ago, VaMarbles said: That is an Indian marble. Nice find Hmm....I know nothing about Indian marbles. Age of these? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 1812 to post WWII. Indian is an ID name🔥 RAR 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 Yes, German Handmade (Indian) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevvyPoole Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 Shine a light through it - is it transparent? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 18 hours ago, Parmcat said: What is this one called? "end-of-day" Indian. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 On 8/5/2025 at 12:30 PM, Wolf said: "end-of-day" Indian. (Unfortunately, I have chosen to remove this content due to behaviors by others on this board) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 36 minutes ago, Alan said: How so? They are considered "end-of-day" because it's believed they were made using leftover glass at the end of the day. The term "Indian" refers to a specific style of these marbles, known for their soft, brittle black glass and colored surface bands. Plus I have one and was labeled as such. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 On 8/5/2025 at 2:35 PM, Wolf said: They are considered "end-of-day" because it's believed they were made using leftover glass at the end of the day. The term "Indian" refers to a specific style of these marbles, known for their soft, brittle black glass and colored surface bands. Plus I have one and was labeled as such. (Unfortunately, I have chosen to remove this content due to behaviors by others on this board) 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 29 minutes ago, Alan said: I see no specific traits that would suggest that this is a singular piece made at the end of a work day. It has two shear points - which validates beyond any speculation that it was cane-cut. So an entire cane was constructed, and this was just one marble of many on the entire cane. So it wasn't a "one off" piece. The "End of Day" moniker has been around for some time - with little to no actual traceable trait for 99% of the marble it is misused upon. I'm happy to believe, but basic knowledge of cane-cut marble construction leaves behind easily identifiable traits that we can see with our eyes. Respectfully - I'll believe what I can actually see over a stick-on label from a stranger who is trying to sell something. Add-on terms have crept into popular use over the last ~2 years, especially by new collectors. End-of-day is becoming one of them. We should pause and question what we are told and ask "Why?". "How do we know that?" "What are the indicators that we can see?". Otherwise we are just casually throwing words around to suggest rarity - when we really don't know. Let's question the casual addition of words that suggest rarity. The hobby will be better informed and collectors can make better decisions. What's this then? A cane-cut? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 On 8/5/2025 at 3:35 PM, Wolf said: What's this then? A cane-cut? (Unfortunately, I have chosen to remove this content due to behaviors by others on this board) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMarbles Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 3 hours ago, Wolf said: They are considered "end-of-day" because it's believed they were made using leftover glass at the end of the day. The term "Indian" refers to a specific style of these marbles, known for their soft, brittle black glass and colored surface bands. Plus I have one and was labeled as such. No. Never heard of an Indian called end of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 3 hours ago, Wolf said: Plus I have one and was labeled as such. I would love to see it for one. Yours is an Indian--I hate to say plain ole Indian because Indians have a cool factor with me. This one I would consider as a cool ole Indian. Luvv em. Marble--On!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 1 hour ago, VaMarbles said: No. Never heard of an Indian called end of day. Found this; An end of day is a term used to describe a speckled pattern that usually onionskins would have at the end of the day when left over pieces of glass were used to make canes that they constructed Onionskins from. There are speckled Indians as well and they would be considered an end of Day Indian. The one I have is a typical Cane-cut Banded Indian with long stretched lines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 1 hour ago, akroorka said: I would love to see it for one. Yours is an Indian--I hate to say plain ole Indian because Indians have a cool factor with me. This one I would consider as a cool ole Indian. Luvv em. Marble--On!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMarbles Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 8 minutes ago, Wolf said: Found this; An end of day is a term used to describe a speckled pattern that usually onionskins would have at the end of the day when left over pieces of glass were used to make canes that they constructed Onionskins from. There are speckled Indians as well and they would be considered an end of Day Indian. The one I have is a typical Cane-cut Banded Indian with long stretched lines. Thanks for the update. Never seen a speckled Indian so maybe somebody can provide a pic of one? Not saying they don’t exist I’ve just never seen one at a show, online or for sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 3 hours ago, Alan said: Yes. She also called these 2 a Gooseberry and a Indian 360-Degree. Are these right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 On 8/5/2025 at 7:05 PM, Wolf said: Found this; An end of day is a term used to describe a speckled pattern that usually onionskins would have at the end of the day when left over pieces of glass were used to make canes that they constructed Onionskins from. There are speckled Indians as well and they would be considered an end of Day Indian. The one I have is a typical Cane-cut Banded Indian with long stretched lines. (Unfortunately, I have chosen to remove this substantial content due to behaviors by others on this board) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMarbles Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 21 minutes ago, Wolf said: She also called these 2 a Gooseberry and an Indian 360-Degree. Are these right? Gooseberry on the bottom Top marble? Maybe a Joesph coat, need more images please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 45 minutes ago, Alan said: Onionskin color bands/panels are made of frit, picked up on the marver by a cane roll and then stretched. All Onionskins outer color is made of frit. Frit was made by crushing color cane pieces for that purpose. Its not "leftover" glass. It has nothing to do with the end of a work day. The experience of the person who wrote that is missing an understanding of how handmades were made. Sounds like you can start a encyclopedia on German Handmade marbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 27 minutes ago, VaMarbles said: Gooseberry on the bottom Top marble? Maybe a Joesph coat, need more images please How's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 30 minutes ago, VaMarbles said: Gooseberry on the bottom Top marble? Maybe a Joesph coat, need more images please She also had for the longest time about 10-12 other German marbles for sale for 20 dollars. I guess I should have bought them. I think the pictures are still available. Want me to find them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 53 minutes ago, Alan said: The experience of the person who wrote that is missing an understanding of how handmades were made. This is a tuff thing to do, explain Handmades to a new collector. The handmades shown, as far as I am concerned, are all nice examples--just not quite round which is a thing with collectors of this type. I will have to step out here on this conversation because--well, I collect machine mades and a few handmades. When I started collecting, all handmades were out of my league. Lets keep this conversation going and lets keep it nice. I just love this stuff. The sharing of long lost info compared to the new opinions that are "out there" on the web. Marble--On!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 12 minutes ago, akroorka said: This is a tuff thing to do, explain Handmades to a new collector. The handmades shown, as far as I am concerned, are all nice examples--just not quite round which is a thing with collectors of this type. I will have to step out here on this conversation because--well, I collect machine mades and a few handmades. When I started collecting, all handmades were out of my league. Lets keep this conversation going and lets keep it nice. I just love this stuff. The sharing of long lost info compared to the new opinions that are "out there" on the web. Marble--On!! It's always nice. Alan and I are "Bosom Buddies" If he was standing in front of me, I would give him a hug. 🥰 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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