warcor Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 Hiya, I bought this based on photos online, thinking it resembled a single gather/transitional. Upon arrival I've not been able to find a pontil scar/facetted pontil etc. But it's certainly an interesting one. There's a small area that looks like it could have been a ground pontil, now worn down a bit, but I'm not convincing myself yet. It's where all the white come to an end n the 2nd photo. It's got a weird "tail" that appears as a blob of glass in a small indent, that then runs and drizzles off. No real ideas on what that could be. What I do know: It's got that faint Manganese glass glow under 265nm, like Greiners I have. The glass "feels" old - I know, I know. but it feels a lot like my german handmades and my greiners. Not like any of my modern machine/handmades. There's a few spots of "debris" in the glass, also a lot like my Greiners. and a few small "pop" marks. Someone suggested it could be a newer "lamp/torch" marble. It honestly doesn't look machine made, but again I could be wrong. And it may be a transitional, where the "blob" is hiding a crease? Whatever it is, it didn't cost me an arm and a leg, and it's quite lovely. 24mm/0.94" Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warcor Posted November 25 Author Report Share Posted November 25 Managed to get a picture of what I thought could be a ground pontil, but not sure. Might be wear/damage. So hard to photograph... Also added a picture of the ground/faceted pontil of one of my confirmed Greiners. which I managed to photograph a little while ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 Yumm----yummm, a hard one to ID with so many images that contradict each other The image ---# seven Imho opinion a Pelt slag I appreciate all opinions an I hope to see some more Marble—On!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie Posted November 25 Report Share Posted November 25 With all those tight "rib bones" in pic's 4 and 6 it could be a Veiligglas wirepull. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 It resembles a Veili, not seeing a single hand gather like a sulphide, single hand gathers were made from a single blob of glass. Big marble though, even for a Veli 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 I think it a gloppy sloppy Alley 🔥 RAR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Pic 4 almost looks like a CAC Flame. 🔥 RAR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Or….A messy Calligraphy 🔥 RAR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 What’s up with the nipple🔥 RAR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 (edited) @Chad G. I have 8 Veili wirepulls .93 to .97. Just looked up @warcor and he is from the UK. Edited November 26 by aussie Added information 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 1 hour ago, aussie said: @Chad G. I have 8 Veili wirepulls .93 to .97. Just looked up @warcor and he is from the UK. Yes, before machine made they were all hand gathered and machine rolled. I just posted the Sulphide thing for people who might not know how the earliest handmades were done before canes. I have a handful of 15/16ths or so pulls I got from a friend in the Netherlands. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted November 26 Report Share Posted November 26 Any verdict yet🔥 RAR🍿🍿🍿 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warcor Posted November 26 Author Report Share Posted November 26 Thanks for all the replies! I'm leaning towards machine made. The "pontil" is literally just some wear by the looks of it. I thought maybe transitional, but it's not got any creases etc. No idea what is up with the blob. Never seen something like that before. it trails off to a fine point, almost like someone tried to fill the cold roll, but failed. It doesn't look like any Veili's I have and I have loads, being from the UK. but it could be Frankenstein type of vibe maybe. The lines in pic 6, look really cool when you tilt the marble back and forth, they kind of "band" like moire lines. I'm certain it's not modern handmade i.e. Lampwork - it's just too messy for that. it's also not boro, definitely a manganese base by the UV reaction. Which some of my Veili's exhibit too. it came in a lot of old marbles someone got from their grandad, none of em modern, so it's definitely vintage at least. Whatever it is, it's in with my favourites. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 Very nice Veili to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 Thanks mate. I'm getting that warm fuzzy feeling again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted November 27 Report Share Posted November 27 MOJO ALERT 🔥🔥🔥 RAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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