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@shiroaiko, @davesnothere I have really been enjoying these posts! And I will need to go through my Vitro archive after seeing some of the marbles - that is probably where I would have sorted them. 🙂
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It looks like a very pretty Vienna Vitro to me - an older Tri-lite, in my mind.
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Welcome to The Marble Connection, Lisa. This is a great place to start! What you have is a small collection of vintage marbles. Nothing jumps out at me as being expensive. In fact, my first look suggests they are relatively common types. The single color transparent or opaque marbles are "board game marbles" and are of little if any interest to collectors. Many of the cat's eyes and common West Virginia swirls also have little value. Having said that, there are a few Vitros, Akros, and others that might be more collectible, all IMHO, of course.
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It's a very pretty marble no matter who made it - I am weighing Master vs Asian but it looks a bit more like a Pincer or Imperial type to me.
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I don't know MK names very well but I don't think I've heard one for this - pretty blend though!
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I could maybe see Mexico but I am still leaning Asian - some of them can look surprisingly like American marbles.
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I recently acquired a box of Japanese Cat's Eyes imported by B. Shackman & Co, which began in the Flatiron Novelty District of New York City (1898-1985). They specialized in marketing novelty and gift items and were long enough lived to have experienced the boom and the bust of the American machine made marble industry, which makes them interesting to me. Daniel Shackman Jacoby (1914-2008), the grandson of founder Bertha Shackman, ran the Company for many years (ca. 1935-1985), and appears to have been actively importing machine made marbles from Europe and Asia during the time when imports of foreign marbles exploded in the late 1950s. I thought it might be fun to learn more about the company's marble offerings. Unlike major jobbers of imported marbles like Penny King, this company appears to have been interested as much in packaging and presentation as product, and it appears to have chased prices across Asia to find an exporter that could meet the needs of their seemingly limited number of marble box imports. I decided to share my efforts to learn more here since I am not getting any younger and it'll probably not be too long before I need crib-notes. One of Shackman's imports appears to have originated in the Netherlands but was apparently packaged in Germany and imported from there. This poly-net bag was posted by @BuckEye in 2017. The marbles are Veiligglas and dating of the bag closure, thanks to @Shamrock Marbles, suggests that the marbles could have been packaged as early as the 1960s. However, warehoused Veiligglas marbles were packaged in poly-net bags long after the company closed in 1961. Many of the bags were simply knotted, with no closure device or labeling. Perhaps @Mojo knows more about these later poly-nets. Here is an example of a Shackman #4721 box I recently found (2-1/2" x 3-3/4" x 1-1/4"). The box is labelled Super Deluxe Jumbo Multi Color Marbles (Marked Japan, #4721). This is one of a few different versions of Shackman's #4721 box. I think this may be an earlier example (1960s). The marbles are a just shy of 1-3/16" (30 mm). Note that the top and sides of the lid are entirely covered by paper, which includes the graphic labeling. I am thinking that @shiroaiko might know more about this box and its contents. In another Japanese version of Shackman's #4721 Super Deluxe Jumbo Multi Color Marbles box (Marked Japan, #4721) the paper label covers only the top of the lid. I think this version is later than the one above. It is also the only version of the Japanese import I have seen with 1-1/8" three-color marbles in it. Photo from WorthPoint. Next is one of Shackman's Taiwanese imports labelled SIX JUMBO Kate Greenaway Marbles (Marked Taiwan; No. 4721). The marbles are 1-1/8" and the box includes instructions for playing "Ring-taw". A recent auction description remarked, "The marbles are made in Hong Kong. Circa 1970-1975" (Block's Marble Auction #1160, Lot 361, 8/24/24). Perhaps @BobBlock will be kind enough to clarify the discrepancy between the auction description and the box label. Screen Capture from Block's Marble Auctions. Another example of the Kate Greenaway box from Pinterest. What I believe is one of Shackman's last imported marble box offerings is from Hong Kong and is labeled Six Fancy Jumbo Kitty Cucumber Marbles. It was produced in 1984 (Marked Hong Kong, #40513, 1984). An example was posted by @Steph in 2007. Note that this is not a variant of the #4721 box like those above. It is smaller (3-1/8" x 2-1/8" x 1") and holds 1" marbles. But like the Kate Greenaway box from the 1970s, it too contains instructions for playing "Ring taw". I think Shackman also marketed a small Kitty Cucumber tin pail filled with cat's-eye marbles and instructions for game play. And throughout the 1960s-1970s they offered a variety of other imported marble-related novelties including: a Handmade Hardwood Oxbow Puzzle (Marked Japan; No. 3664), a Labyrinth Marble Maze Game (Marked Japan), and a Handcrafted Hardwood Tic-Tac-Toe Game (Marked Japan or Taiwan Rep. of China; No. 3380), to name a few. I would like to learn more about B. Shackman & Co.'s boxed marble products, especially a timeline for their offerings, so please add any information you have! And here's to hoping someone is sitting on a stack of Shackman's catalogues!
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The sampler box is a prize for any collector -the intact paperwork and bags are a plus too, thanks for showing it! I think the large marbles are also Tiger Eyes (or close relatives - it's hard to be certain from this single view). And that makes sense to me, since Dulites would be a step down in quality (and price) compared to the Tiger Eyes, so putting them in the space reserved for shooters would have been bad marketing IMO - I have a hard time thinking they would have filled the player space with only fancy Tiger Eyes and then put only duller Dulites in the space for shooters. Although, I might be able to imagine a 60/40 split between Tiger Eyes and Dulites in both of those spaces.
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This marble is folded and the seams are pinched together - it looks mostly like a JABO or Vitro, as far as structure goes, although it could be a CAC, theoretically. In the end,I am playing the odds that this marble is foreign - perhaps Vacor, like Art said.
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I'm with Tommy - Alley is what I see too.
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I'm thinking the second one you posted is Ravenswood - not sure I've seen one with AV, nice marble.
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With respect to my comment, I did not mean anything personal toward you and I am sorry that it came out that way. What I meant was that with marbles like this it's likely you will have multiple groups of people who agree on different IDs - there are several potential makers in the mix. I personally think Kokomo is on the lower end of the scale of possibilities. At the upper end, I have Marble King and foreign. I have seen many of the latter with three neat ribbons of different colors and I do not think that the nice seams on your marble rule them out, so that is the way I am leaning. Just my two cents, please take it for what it's worth. 🙂
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I need to dig through some marbles and get back to this one, @Tommy.
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Some people agree the earth is flat too.
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Great, I am very interested to see more photos of the box and contents - especially the marbles they refer to as Dulites.
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Many if not all of the marbles you show in your box appear to be Vitro Tiger Eyes. Type I Tiger Eyes are the only ones with three colors.
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Bumpity . . . This is a good game, Fire, but no guess from me!
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That's a pretty one - what size is it?
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@disco005 Might be something akin to the chemistry that produces Peltier's Bronze Zebras
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@disco005 No brown on these, but the AV is plenty thick.
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I think there probably is some fortuitous brown in the mix since I have seen plenty of patches loaded with thick green AV that shows no brown. The brown is very cool - makes it look sorta "lutzy". There might be some sort of a chemistry happening that makes it brownish.
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Sweet marble, Jess. I'm leaning Akro, and I'm kind of surprised you're not. The cut-offs look way more Akro than Master to me and i know they made some AV-loaded patches too. 🙂
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Hello Kesia, welcome to The Marble Connection! Marbles 1, 4 & 10 (solid colored) are referred to as game marbles since they are often used in games like Chinese Checkers. The second marble might be the most interesting but it is difficult to tell what it is from this single view. The third marble appears to be an Asian Cat's Eye. The 5th and 9th are commonly referred to as West Virginia Swirls (WVSs) - they look like Alley Agates at first glance but, again, it is difficult to tell from a single view. The three patch type marbles (6-8) look mostly like Vitros to me, although 7-8 might be newer Marble Kings. They all appear to be common vintage marbles, perhaps with the exception of #2, which might be more interesting. Proper ID often requires closer photos that show multiple views of the marble.
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Wow, really? I don't think I've ever seen a Champion that's even close. Do you have any photos you could share?
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Thank you for sharing this, Aiko. I have great admiration for people with creative and artistic talent, and it is obvious to me that you have both. I especially like the ocean themed pieces and the kimono beads, but my favorites are the sewing pins - they are so simple and yet so beautiful! The little envelopes are also very sweet. My wife would be overjoyed to receive those as a gift!