Pictures I submitted are all of Peltier Cannonballs' the links I provided even say cannonball, no Orion's belt. Bill (mibcapper R.I.P.) had two of them i.e.(cannonballs) they are oversaturated av. Zebras. A white base with oversized black ribbons saturated w/ aventurine, you can see in the pix where the black ribbons overlap the white base, more of doesn't mean that's the base color. Can be confusing @ times I know. That's why there are so few examples of them that pix are VHTF. The pix posted were all taken from Cannonball I.D. posts on AAM.
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Orion's Belts ::
LINK :: https://www.allaboutmarbles.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12659
LINK : https://www.allaboutmarbles.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=30118&p=233165&hilit=orions+belt#p233165
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There are 2 different types of Orion's Belts
LINK: https://www.allaboutmarbles.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=34360&p=261257&hilit=orions+belt#p261257
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Post by westcoast_dave ยป Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:31 am
The way Clyde (R.I.P) relayed the info to me back in 2011 was: California collector Bruce Lockheart (R.I.P)named the Orions Belt specifically because the blending colors of aventurine reminded him of the Orion's Belt star-forming region. It was an NLR Zebra-type marble with multiple colors of aventurine tracing it (black, silver, blue). He also said it could have other colors like bronze or green but it must have the silver and blue.
If you will notice, Clyde's and Dani's examples are predominately NLR Zebra-type marbles with multiple colors of aventurine tracing the ribbons. I attached a photo with red arrows pointing to the three black ribbons that put these marbles in the NLR zebra category, but were considered by Clyde to be Orion's Belts because of the additional blending aventurine colors.
After Clyde passed in 2014, i noticed a lot of postings of another type of marble being called an Orion's Belt. In my opinion, it was just a miscommunication somewhere along the line from collector to collector.
I also attached a photo of a couple NLR green rebels and the newly dubbed Midwest/East "Orion's Belts". Clyde and i discussed these types in depth, especially when we received Bruce Lockheart's entire collection from his wife after his passing. We felt the now called Midwest Orion's Belt was more closely related to the NLR Green Rebel because of the similar transparent green ribbons and the black AV in the orange ribbons. But we felt it was a misfit and couldn't be called a Green Rebel hybrid and even joked about calling the examples without AV "tropical christmas trees".
I spent more time than anyone with Clyde in the last years of his life. More time than his own family. He was my pelt brother and he taught me everything i know about pelts. Rest in Peace buddy.
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. It was an "NLR Zebra-type" marble with multiple colors of aventurine tracing it (black, silver, blue). He also said it could have other colors like bronze or green but it must have the silver and blue.