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They are doing handgathered types in China today for very little money due to cheap laber. So the 50s 60s communist era may have provided cheap labor also??? I ran across some very interesting material from the 50s that I will post shortly, And I may have to stop completely poo pooing these marbles as they may be from the 50s??? Still not the antiques they are being represented as. More like the "Japanese" pinch pontils. But post 16 sure looks like a brand new marble

tough call with the literature as the same names were used for marbles of both "types". I do not remember reading anything that made a distinction when the 4 ribbon simpler style was started. Many NLRs were only 4 ribbons so it is a tough call????? Maybe Mike has some gems of information from material I missed. (fingers crossed)

Gonna have to shift my thinking a few years earlier. So early to mid 30s for "Rainbo" Types?

Now thats a beard, No bird nests this year?(LOL)

I bet they took ebay scam lessons from the Eagle print Bennington sellers.

I was wondering if levels were still up due to the drought. You can not even see the shoreline from some of the boat ramps at several Northern Ca. Reservoirs.

And from the looks of many of the items I can picture some guy making them, shooting them. burying them for a while, digging them up cleaning a bit and putting them up for sale. Like so many of the cast iron toys, banks etc, being sold

Are they keeping Elsinore full or has the shoreline disappeared.

I remember them in the machines.

It is my understanding that the owners of CAC actually had little to do with their marble making venture so it is possible the "plant Manager" was "head of the company" because someone had to????? I will stick with "Plant Manager" in my future discussions as head of the company is too open a comment.

They look smell feel just like a contemporary. And one sellers never ending supply should also be a dead on give away these are being made now. Brian Graham has made many marbles just like these. Everything is wrong about them.. Pontils, glass, style etc etc etc.

I agree with Gropper, Albright not so much in my opinion unless you are talking clay marbles. They were huge in clays but small resellers with glass m,arbles

yea, we always knew when there was a north wind. First the odor then the flies . But on any other day all we could smell were the Orange Groves surrounding us and it was heavenly.

Sounds like fun! Does Norco still smell like cow poop. I once lived in Corona

It really is a beautiful piece. The fineness of the work is just over the top. It is a little under 7" across and about 1 1/4" deep. I have owned some other old pieces including a perfume bottle that was breathtaking.

I can, for the same reason many other boxes and bags do not mention the marbles manufacturer. They do not say manufactured by Albright. they say Albright marbles which to me means they purchased and resold not distributed for CAC. Which also explains why their labels are sometimes found glued on CAC boxes. with Christensen blacked out. As for the Feidler comment. He was listed as plant manager on one old printed piece of paper I read. Maybe Allen read the same item?

Part of that never ending supply, Seems many have woken up but someone gets taken with every auction.

Vitro is my take on them, and I wish that pelt box was mine.

Hopefully everyone appreciates him taking the time to post the stories. I know I do.

Did not notice any marbles in the Albright box that could not be attributed to CAC but I do see many that I would have to say could not have been made any where else IMO. But there were two factories. Payne and Cambridge each in production for 3 years if I remember correctly.I have always wondered if the classic handgathered opaques I own in classic CAC colors were from the Payne address The Christensen Agate Company was founded by W.F. Jones, H.H. Culper, Owen M. Roderick, Robert C. Ryder, and Beaulah P. Hartman. However, the two individuals who made the company's marbles as distinctive as they are were the aforementioned glass chemist Arnold Fiedler, who later became the head of the company, and Howard M. Jenkins, who was president of Christensen Agate and also manufactured and patented its marble-making machinery. This patent was obtained in 1924; however, there is little that can be said about the first marbles produced by this machinery while operating in the factory's original location in Payne From Alans site. The public record is the owners and the officers, This was just a side venture for most of the owners who had other major investments, Also public record. If you want to dig a little their corporate offices were in Akron.

I think she meant Lutz Glass, Like this piece of Lutz Glass well thats what I thought she meant until I reread it.

All gorgeous marbles!!!

All the players in CAC are fairly well known from public record. I do not believe Gropper was ever part of the ownership, or had much to do with anything other than distribution for CAC. And I also believe Gropper was only involved with CAC for a few years of their existence. And if I remember correctly from what I read it was Sellers that got rid of Gropper. I also think it is more of a labeling issue than there being two factories producing the exact same marbles in different sizes