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Don is still with marbles. He attends the FL show regular. The Vitro Lilacs were made at Parkersburg and Anacortes. So were the horseshoe Cat Eyes. Both of these are usually attributed to Anacortes location only. The Vitro confetti's were made at both locations.

#1 Dug marbles means, most times dug from the ground at the factory site or nearby. Also could be dug from a old house dump. Many rural houses in the 1930-1950's usually had a dump site on the property for many types of glass, jars, bottles, tin cans, etc. There was no plastic then. Also could mean dug from an old privy or out house site. Dug marbles = dug from the ground. All marble companies discarded marbles for many different reasons. They all discarded error marbles and mint ready to sell marbles. They did not have a warehouse. They were cheap kids toys not a penny each. Easier to make more than store them for a year or more. Many mint marbles were never sold for different reasons. Some certain marbles were all discarded or dumped. They only way collectors have them today is from some person who dug them up. #2 Yes there are many people who are marble dealers only and never collect a marble. Some were collectors for years. Then decided to sell part or all or become just a dealer. Marble dealers are needed and a plus in keeping marbles rotating in the hands of collectors. I have seen some marbles that I have sold, change hands three times since I owned them. I have sold marbles and maybe years later buy them back. I sold a lot of marbles in 2005 during my divorce. I have bought several of those back. I have sold marbles and original bags or box sets, and later buy them back cheaper than what I sold them for. People has things happen and sometimes need to sell if they want to or not. Buying or selling marbles can be a merry go round. Some people can collect thirty years and never ever sell marble. That is fine but if every collector did that ? How many marbles would be available for collectors in the next twenty years. Marble collectors need marble sellers or dealers. Marble sellers or dealers need marble collectors to buy them. #3 Yes certain marbles were more treasured back in the 1950's. But it was usually a certain lucky shooter or a certain color, usually red. Not many players or kids knew any named marbles. Names did not play a big role in marbles in the 1940-50's. The only marble that I knew the name of in the 1950's was the MK Bumblebee. I don't remember anyone around me in the 1950,s calling a marble by a company brand or marble name. I am sure the more colorful marbles were cherished more than solid color ones. Size was a big factor then. Large marbles, 3/4 to 7/8 inch were few. I played marbles in the 1950's. I never heard any marble Superman name until at least 1996 or 1998, when I started collecting. Collectors like marble names. Most kids didn't really care then or now. I have gave away many thousands of marbles to kids and not one kid has ever ask me about any name. Once that have them in hand, they just want to play with them. But most do not know how to play with them. But they will roll them and find something to do with them. Give them a handful of marbles and they will immediately put the phone down.

The Memories.

Sistersville Alley

Not CAC at 7/8 inch.

Maybe Cairo Novelty. Bad seedy glass, correct colors, C or S pattern same as Jabo. Short glass stream from furnace to the shear.

Very nice job as always. Your videos are a big benefit to collectors every where. Glad I could be some help and part of this. Thank you for all the long hours, expense, and effort.

I agree with Steph and Jabo on #6.

Left to riight. Champion - Alley Jabo - Ravenswood

Better than chasing a skunk.

Probably six hours of time and 32 or more post and we still don't know what the original marbles is ? All for a 25 cents or less marble. People told me 20 years ago that I was crazy to do this. I just ran a skunk out of the yard. The problem is a coyote got him. I heard him squeal twice and now I have to smell him. The night just gets better.

This one below is not the same as a Tiger Eye with white. Made the same way, the same construction, just different placement of colors. That is how the Tiger eyes are separated. The type two (no white) is more valuable than any with white. They are also separated by value, by collectors. That was part of Chuck's discovery. He called me all excited and said there is a Tiger Eye with no white and they are so much more rare to find. Type two in the back. Black pole - blue pole - two yellow ribbons around the middle. No white.

Chuck Brandstetter discovered that after two years of cataloging thousands of Tiger eyes. Art just made cheap toys, to make it complicated and confuse us.

Vitro Tiger eyes. White is the main key. Type One has a white pole. Type two has no white. Type three has one or two white ribbons around the middle. Type four is opaque white base.

Type two Tiger Eye has not white.

I agree three colors, one pole lavender, one pole white , and two ribbons around the middle of the same blue color. Would be a very rare and unusual Type One Tiger Eye(not true type 1). Two different colors of blue around the middle would not be unusual. He has one of those in his group pictures. That marble is a Type one Tiger Eye. It has two different colors around the middle. That marble has four colors, not three.

Tiger eye with one white pole, a different color pole, and two ribbons around the middle the same color. That depends on the color placements. Yes a white pole, a blue pole and two yellow ribbons around the middle. But not a blue pole and a white pole, with two white ribbons around the middle. We just need some more and better pictures of the cut lines and ribbons around the middle of the original marble in question. I see it does have three colors, Pastel Lavender - Powder Blue - White. Ric did not see Lavender or pink and I did not see any White. The white to me looked like bright light reflection. I give !

So it has only two colors Pastel lavender and powder blue ? If that is true it cannot be a Tiger eye. I have no idea what a set of Vitro Off Set seams are ? Every Tiger Eye or Whitie will have two usually straight cut lines opposite each other. One on each side or half of the marble.

Most or all of those are Tiger Eyes. What about the original and my questions.

I was scratching my head. I know that you know Vitros well. It is the pictures and the color. I saw mainly blue with pink. You saw white rather than pink and blue around the middle. Identifying marbles by pictures is a cake walk, LOL ! Anyone can do it.

As we said, Type I Tiger eye usually has three or four colors. If the top patch has color and the bottom is white. Where is the third or fourth color ? Tiger Eyes have a patch of color on each pole and a band or two connecting ribbons around the middle. I don't think it fits Whitie or Tiger Eye. We can only give identifications by the pictures we see. I am not even sure it is Vitro ? Maybe Rick will answer my four questions? Is it opaque ? Is it transparent ? Does it have white ? Does it have a ribbon or two connecting ribbons around the middle ?

Vitro Whites have opaque white base(not a patch) or a clear base with veneered white. Or white on both poles with a different colored equatorial band around the middle. All Whitie shave the main color as white. Is the main base color white ? Whities do not have a patch of color they have a colored band or ribbon around the middle.

Is it opaque base ? Is it transparent base ? It looks blue base with pink patch. Does a colored band or ribbon go all the way around the middle ? I thought all Whities had main color as whiite(the name whitie)and a different color band all the way around the middle The pictures are bright and some washed out, light reflection. But it looks like it is blue to me. No way from the pictures can I tell if it is veneered or not ? It would have to be backlit.

Bad fake Guinea.