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The first 15 all look like Alleys.

I agree Jabo and no oxblood.

I don't know about wealth, it does not pay much. The people connected to many marble factories were amazed that anyone cared about what they did or made. Most all of them are gone now. All they ask of me was to share what they told me. I was a pest for them over several years with never ending questions. Some of them became very close friends to me. They are missed every week. Like most marble people, I wish that I had ask even more questions.

I agree Akro.

Vitro never made any shift knobs or spinner knobs. I knew the plant manager who was there through the 1940's until the 1970's and the one until they closed. They both said Vitro never made any type shift or spinner knobs.

MK

Correct any shooter size Jackson is very rare. Jackson never had a 3/4 or larger machine. There has been maybe 6 shooters found. They are flukes oversize, not normal production. The Jackson in your group is the Crème White base with red/orange swirl. Far right side Jackson and Champion are about the only two companies that made a white base and red swirl that glows. The dirty white or crème white base is Vitrolite cullet. This certain color Vitrolite cullet is what glows. Jackson also used it with one of their blue colors. It is always a dirty or creme white, not bright tor normal white. The Champions white base and red swirl that glow have a slight green tint to the white base. Easy to tell apart in hand. The two white bases are definite different. If it is white base red/orange swirl that glows, it is most likely Jackson or Champion. Davis also used the same Vitrolite crème cullet that glows. But odds are very high against finding many Davis marbles. As 90-95% of all their production went to Puerto Rico.

Size ???

Something else in common with all these. I see a Jackson in there.

Someone could possibly make some money. But it will take several people and time to complete it.

No nothing to do with the end of a run. This is from the shear or temperature as the marble glob hit the first grove in the machine rolls. The marble design or pattern is most done before it hits the rolls. But if it hits the rolls wrong, or to hot, to cold or does not spin correct. The pattern then can change slightly within the first 2-3 maybe 4th roll groove. The rolls just make the marble round and used for cooling. After the first or second roll groove the design of the marble will not change. Most 98% of the marbles design or looks, patch, ribbons, swirl etc. all happen before the machine with the rolls. You can make patch marbles or swirl marbles on the same exact machine. It is the equipment upstream of the machine that makes the marble pattern. Marble makers consider the marble machine, the piece of equipment with grooved rolls, which can be moved in and out under a glass furnace. They had to change them to make different size marbles. You cannot make good 3/4 marbles on a machine with 5/8 grooved rolls. All kinds of things happen to make odd, mistake, or messed up marbles. At 250 per minute problems happen fast. If it is three minutes to correct a small problem. That was 750 mistake marbles. Problems happen average every 15 minutes 24hrs. a day. Most of the problem marbles are sorted out before being packaged for sale. But some are always missed.

I think the majority of the marble is clear glass. Clear glass is 50-75% cheaper than colored glass. Clear is even cheaper than opaque white which is next down the cost list. The main furnace or glass tank would have contained clear cullet glass. Then they would add small amounts of the yellow to the furnace downstream near the outlet. They could have had 5000lb. of clear and made 1000lb. with yellow, 1000lb. with blue, 1000lb, with green, 1000lb with white, 1000lb, purple. If any red the amount would probably be smaller. Red is the most expensive and most difficult to control. The yellow in the marble above just spread, thinned or bleed to spread. Champion and many others used the single stream method of making machine made marbles. Most older and high dollar machine made marbles have better glass and the colors do not bleed or thin much. These companies used a multi stream method. Which cost more with everything and requires more equipment. When cost cutting happened to all of them or go out of business. Most of the companies then used single stream method. With the single stream method the colored glass flows and spreads, thins more. They get more marbles for each pound of colored cullet glass. Your Champion is probably from about 1975-1990's.

The magic marble identification book. I think there are more variables with marbles than leaves. Some marbles are the exact same from two different companies, like Ravenswood and Alley. It would be something to see all the color combinations a computer could come up with for corkscrews. Some people has collected corks for 30-50 years and still finding new color combinations. I have big doubts that I will ever see that Magic Marble ID Book or App. But if someone can do it in a week. They could make a lot of money for years with one weeks work. It might be a problem finding that one person to do the review and are people going to agree or believe one person for every marble identification. That would be billions.

I have never found any proof that any marble company made any of the gear shift or steering wheel spinner knobs. I have also had the much smaller turn signal knobs. Houze made a lot of these knobs. A few full knobs and several pieces of these different knobs has been found by diggers at old marble factory sites. The marble companies were buying them as cullet and using them to make marbles. There are vintage ones and new ones. Below is one I dug but never made by any marble company.

Jabo used Fenton cullet to make marbles from the first year up until this year. They used the Fenton Art Glass pink in Jabo Classic marbles for many years. Most if not all the vintage WV marble companies used Fenton cullet in making marbles. Vitrolite and Fenton glass were two of the most major sources of cullet for marbles. Fenton was in business 100 years. The Gabert cullet Co. of WIlliamstown WV were the people who sold and delivered most cullet to the WV marble companies. The Gabert family still owns and operates the same cullet Co. from Williamstown WV. Pink base marbles, stay alert for Jabo.

No yellow base. It is clear base with yellow swirls. Probably Champion.

I agree, messed up Peltier Rainbo.

Every machine made marble is cut twice which is two shear marks per marble. Sometimes the cut line or shear mark shows and sometimes does not show. This depends on at least two or three different factors. How hot the glass is. The space between the holes of the shear blade. The alignment of the glass stream entering the shear. Plus more. Your marble has a roll mark, a flaw, which can be caused by probably 10-25 different problems that can occur. Your marble has two colors, white base and light rose or light maroon was added for the swirl. It is a modern machine made marble, no 9 twist left or right. The 9 twist is hand gathered marbles only. When the punty rod is twisted to gather the glass, it can make a 9 twist. We can only see one pole. Both pictures are the same, just one closer, same pole in each picture. Have no idea what the mark may be on the pole we cannot see. Probably another roll mark or cut line. If it shows two cut lines well, it may not be a Jabo ? Some Jabos show cut lines, but the vast majority of Jabos show no cut line. Multiple views of a marble is much needed for a accurate id. But those multiple views should be of different sides, angles, or both poles. The shear mark or cult line showing on this marble is on the left side from 11 o' clock down to 7 o 'clock. The marble may be a late Vitro or a Jabo. It is probably 7/8 inch size. If it shows two nice cut lines, it is more likely a Vitro and probably made about 1985-86. Value is about 50 cents to $1.00.

Pink is a odd marble base color. Except for Jabo. Probably 90% of 1000 pink base machine made marbles will be Jabos. Percentage probably higher than 90. The pink glass or cullet Jabo used in making the pink marbles for several years, was from nearby Fenton Art Glass Co. Fenton Art Glass made their own glass and made many different pink pieces.

A marble owner can call their marble by any name or company name they like. Just look on ebay. What someone thinks or hopes their marble to be, may not always be accurate. Each collector has to do their own research, how much or how little ? Then they have to make their own decision on what they have, or what to call it. Some want to know the most correct or accurate info, and some do not care. Some people learn most marbles after a few years and some have problems after a few years and give up. I own a Ford and would like it to be a Cadillac, but correctly it is a Ford. Just depends if you want to be correct or not ? If you own it you can call it anything you want.

I agree packaged and sold by Imperial. Probably made in Asia.

Probably Champions.

I don't know if any employees switched from Ravenswood to Heaton ? Doubtful most employees lived close to the factory, as the pay was small. But someone could have moved? I have a list of most the Ravenswood employees and all were from Ravenswood or the very near area. There are Ravenswood marbles at the Heaton site. Even Red Ravens. Jack Bogard told me he bought Ravenswood marbles at the last auction many years after Ravenswood had closed. He also bought one of the machines. I think Heaton may have bought a few Ravenswood marbles while both of them were in business. We found at least six different marble companies marbles while digging at Heaton. Most were very small numbers compared the Heaton marbles. We found 7/8 Vitro All Reds most broken, 7/8 Masters most fractured, about 6-10 Akro 5/8 corks, maybe 15-20 5/8 MK, About 6-10 Ravenswood Red Ravens, Bogard banana cats, etc. I know Jack Bogard packaged other companies marbles. Bogard was at the site after Heaton closed. Ravenswood and Heaton sites were about 70 miles apart. In the 1940's and early 1950's that was a long drive.

Not Joker 1- first run.. I think they are probably done by the Joker investor group. The Joker group did many runs over four years or more. If Josh stops by, he will know what the name of the run was.