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Correct the statement that, dug marbles were rejects that got tossed into a pit. Is a old myth, half false and half truth. Just what someone assumed and spread false information. If it is, all dug marbles were rejects ? That is totally false. One word changes things. I have been fighting 25 years of the statement that all dug marbles were rejects The companies did not pay someone to take a shovel or anything else and dig pits to bury marbles. A average for most vintage marble company sites for dug marbles would be about 30% ready to sell or mint marbles and about 70% were errors, rejects, damaged with age from being buried or damaged while being dug. Some sites were different, like Ravenswood. All the Ravenswood marbles that were dumped over the river bank were ready to sell and ship marbles. Every site has a different story of why, how and when mint marbles were discarded. Error marbles and mint marbles were discarded into depressions, mud holes, swamps, ditches, used as gravel to drive cars on, stream banks and river banks. They were used as fill or same as most individual house dumps then. Anyplace nearby to dispose of something that they could not sell. The marbles were not a penny each. If you had 200 red hot error marbles from the rolls in a catch bucket of 500 good marbles. They did not sort out the error ones from the catch containers, as they were made. They dumped the entire bucket and put it back under the end of the rolls. At 200 per minute you would not pay someone to sort out the 200 hot bad marbles. A marble machine operator did not have time to sort. Sorting was done by eye and hand at the very end of the process during packaging. Then when errors were found they were also discarded. Even then the rejects were often picked up by hand along with mint marbles and discarded. Anyone who has ever dug marbles at a factory site for four or eight hours and found marbles. Will tell you they found mint marbles. Mint marbles were discarded that no collector would have ever seen if someone had not dug them and shared the marbles and information. No one today would know what any Davis Marble Works marbles look like. If four people had not dug them. There were more ready to sell marbles there at that site than rejects or errors. The popular Akro Jolly Roger and Claudia marbles were all dug. If you have 5000 or more marbles in your collection ? You have a good chance that it may contain a dug marble. If a marble is mint, it is mint. No matter if it come from a original package or come from the ground. All dug marbles were rejects is and always has been totally false. Many of these old marble myths and false statements will never go away. Because people just keep spreading them as the truth, without any evidence or hands on experience. The people who know the truth need to speak it more often, if things will change for tomorrow.
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It cannot be a Vitro Parrot. They need a white base and four other colors.
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Out of the original package. I would have trouble identifying most Vacor Atmosphere marbles. They were handmade and different, some were near alike but how many different ones are there ? Nola bought 26 of these bags, from one collector at the Feb 2023 Canton OH show.
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I have no new info on Roger and Claudia's collection.
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I would put it with MFC.
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Most aventurine in marbles is man made glass. Or a chemical reaction which is usually fine green color.
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All maybe Alley, except maybe the top left might be Jabo. Can you tell if it is old or newer ? Does it have any wear, little white hit marks ?
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Some of the WV swirls you will probably never know for sure. So many are so similar or the exact same or generic. Especially the transparent colored base and single color ones. Or the dark purple and white swirls. The only trait left then is the swirl pattern.
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Bottom right is Vitro All Red.
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Possible Cairo but really nice for Cairo ? Maybe Josh will check in and confirm or not for Jabo.
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Probably MK game marbles.
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Very likely. Is it 3/4 inch ?
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I agree messed up twisted error Peltier Sunset.
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Stephen Bahr has a You Tube Video on Davis marbles. Plus ones with Ravenswood, Jackson, Alley, MK, Peltier, Vitro, Cairo Novelty , Heaton, and more.
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Watch You Tube video by Stephen Bahr- How a marble is made. Good video on making single stream machine made marbles. Andy Davis tops are in this video.
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Everything in my group pic are Davis.
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Some glow and some do not, same as most all other machine mades. I would say the first one might be Davis if the white is what glows. The white in most all of your pictures looks to much bright white for Davis. The Davis marbles that glow have a certain dirty cream white color of Vitrolite cullet which was used that glows bright. Davis The one below glows Does not glow. Has green Coke bottle glass. Yellow spirals will have orange glow. Glows Does not glow
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Marble medals have always made me shy away. I am convinced that there were fakes made. Even putting old ribbons on new fake medals. I have not done enough homework to be 100% sure of what I might be buying.
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Purple and green Sauron eye... any ideas on the maker?
wvrons replied to rockgardenplants's topic in Marble I.D.'s
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Could be from many glass companies. Plus it does not all come from marble companies. Any art glass company can have about any color combination of cullet.