m!b$ Posted December 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 sounds like somebody's celibrating new years a little early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Would Jim King say dug if it weren't? His auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=360116026194 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Yes most are dug, and show slight crazing in the red explaining why they were dumped.(or maybe they didn't like the Ox) I do not believe they are doing any veneering at the plant or have done any in the last 40 years. I have seen a couple other color combos with the weird oxblood like striping on the end. They were also dug. I have been approached and asked if I would like to buy a large group of these marbles (from a dig site) Peace,Galen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 whatever.......people use any tactitcs to sell em...if jim sez theyrte dug maybe he was told dug...jim haint no digger...if hes got dug marbles then hes bought em or paid somebody to dig em....thats all im sayin....since steph has join the discussion it time for me to exit...bye-bye...cut and paste this..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Duffy, If you have any factual evidence that they started Veneering the old colors on white bases at the factory again this would be a great place to share it. I do know there are a lot of folks besides me that would like to know any facts you have that we do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 yeah right galen...dont worry about it.i tried to give the info once...you wont take facts.....tell me why all these spidermen have surfaced./..you have all the true facts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m!b$ Posted December 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Newer-run MK Spidermans, no oxblood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Newer-run MK Spidermans, no oxblood Yes - those are the new ones. They are not patch and ribbon (not even close) and not veneered. They are pretty easy to spot and IMO not even close to the vintage types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m!b$ Posted December 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 How do you know that they are not veneered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 How do you know that they are not veneered? I own a number of them and there is no sign of a white base/color veneer. I suppose I could crack one open... The glass color appearance is strikingly different than vintage P&R MK types - it comes across as much more glassy. All of the MK "remakes" of those types appear that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskirk Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 I wonder how many of these are out there, and if they will start sufacing for sale, I am considering selling mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marblemansion Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 marble seller 1STOP is certainly selling alot of Spiderman marbles and now he is unloading Green Hornets - I have bought many marbles from him in the past - and most of them are pretty nice - dont look to be dug - I wonder where they are all coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marblemansion Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 How do you know that they are not veneered? Marble King used to veneer them to reduce the cost of making the colored glass - I don't think that is a problem nowadays....in fact it would be more of a hassel to veneer them and less cost effective most likely. But I don't know - when last I stopped buying MKs in 2003 - they were not veneered....and they never reprodeced a PRP pattern like the one from the 50's and 60's YET - but I am sure they could if they wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 I wonder how many of these are out there, and if they will start sufacing for sale, I am considering selling mine They are out there - but a GS with oxblood is far less common: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 It is very easy to see none of the newer MKs are veneered. A hammer or a strong back light for some works great. Many mables from the 70s and newer have been sold to a lot of folks thinking they are the original veneered on white type. After having both types in hand it is fairly easy to tell the difference. Peace,Galen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 heres from 03..looks vaneered from here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedidoll Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 I still say an "inards" thread would be a good one!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyzora Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 - and most of them are pretty nice - dont look to be dug - I wonder where they are all coming from? So many 'dug' mibs about lately, were more really 'discarded' than sold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 heres from 03..looks vaneered from here.... Interestingly destructive....but I don't think that is one of the types we are discussing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FeelingMarbleous Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 :rol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 i thought the king wanted proof that there was vaneering going on lately.....that was funny though alan.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Although it does appear as a partial veneering the base glass is actually the ribbon color not a veneer. Thanks for the smash. Peace,Galen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 is that right galen...youre amazing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo444 Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Galen, this is one of those times when you backup. You speak to us like we're idiots. Anyone can plainly see that the base glass IS the ribbon part of the pattern and you would have us believe that it is "only partially" veneereed just so you don't have to back up in what your saying as in "OMG I might have made a mistake!!!? The red is ONLY veneered. Just look at the picture!!! LOL!!!!! Just admit that you have made a wrong ASSumption and move on dude. Trust me you wont be alone in the mistake dept. We all make them, just hard to admit to sometimes. This is one of those times. Good call Duffy, Bo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 WOW BO!, Sorry if I appeared to talk down to any one. I should have said I do not believe they are veneering the patch and the ribbon onto a white base. If you want to call the patch a veneer I guess you can. I have just never called the patch on a marble a veneer. Thats not what I was talking about anyway and these marbles are still totally different than the original patch and ribbon veneered on white type.(thats what this discussion is actually about) Sorry if I mislead anyone. That was not my intention. I still do not believe they are making any, where the patch and ribbon are veneered onto a white base. If you have some new ones like that I would appreciate seeing them. Not saying I am never wrong. And I do not doubt that with some glass making(for colors) and equipment machining that they could probably make them again. Peace,Galen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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