venwood Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 See how bag doesn't fit? Does anyone have any input Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venwood Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Was hoping someone had a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 You might need to wait for Al. They look like they could be marbles which Champion would have had on hand. If there are cat's eyes in there, Champ wouldn't have made them, but they might still have had them around. Especially in the 1970's. Are there 21 marbles in the bag? There are some real Champ bags, filled with real Champ mibs, but not with the permission of Champion. If I understand correctly. Champ bags are a tricky area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venwood Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Someone has them for sale the description says there are 21 in the bag don't know if there are any catseye's.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I would guess not filled at the factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJnew2marbles Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 we have had this conversation before, haven't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Yeah, they might be Champion marbles (kind of look like they are) and a Champion header and bag but there is a highly likely that those were 'filled' bags. Champion had a sale at one time and somebody got Champion marbles, empty polybags and Champion headers (labels). They then proceeded to fill and staple the bags together (everything original to Champion except the staples). They ran out of marbles before they ran out of bags and headers so they put other marbles in the bags. Also, I "think" (can't find the flyer copy) that there were a couple fake Champion bags in the group of 53 fake/fantasy bags made by the guy out of Florida in the mid 90's. Nationwide Insurance and Milton Bradley were also some of the header from the Champion factory that were filled, too. I posted some pics of the filled Champion bags (or may have been the fake ones out of Florida, too, since he used MK's a lot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I would say that having Cateyes in the bag would definitely say, filled by someone other than the factory. I can't imagine Champion ever needing to purchase marbles to bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Someone recently showed pix of a big "Champion" cache. At least I remembered it has having a Champion connection. And I think there were cat's eyes there. Whose thread was that? And weren't there cat's eyes in some of the Bicentennial bags? Or were my bags fake? Anything is possible, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 Thats true. Especially when it comes to marbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steves mibs Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 hey all champion did make cat eyes and loads of them too i figure i have dug many many many from there and have opened about 100 bicentennial bags that all had cat eyes in them anyhow there are 2 cents to add in steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 It was my understanding that Champion purposefully filled the Bicentennial Bags with marbles from several WV companies, and I think Heaton and MK cats are not uncommon in those bags. I also thought that Champion never manufactured cat's eyes. Are the ones you dug there distinctly different from other manufacturer's cat's eyes or could they just be remnants of those Champion obtained from other companies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted November 25, 2009 Report Share Posted November 25, 2009 I agree with Ric - the Champion Bicentennial bags were filled using marbles from as many WV companies as they could get marbles from. By the way, the Bicentennial bags were also filled later on with 'other' marbles. I have one with red, white & blue marbles and have seen others that did not have the variety from the original bags. While I don't recall hearing or reading it, it would not surprise me if the 'filled' bags that I mentioned in a previous post also included the Bicentennial bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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