lstmmrbls Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 They don't now but it sure would be easy to facet some pontils. Nice work Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Do they have faceted pontils? If so they are very old. That's the point. They probably all have melted pontils. Old melted pontils marbles are all made in the USA and never have oxblood. A melted pontil oxblood marble should never be mistaken as old. Not for next 50 years anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronmarbles Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 The oxbloods are from the last time I made marbles back in March of 2008. Below are some of the first marbles I ever made and they look exactly like the Bulgarian example that started this thread. My crucible was a ceramic dog food bowl in the bottom of my glory hole. I melted scrap glass. It is rather easy to make seedy old looking glass with as-made broken air holes, embedded dirt/ metal oxide. Mine are all melted pontil as Hansel states. Making a ground pontil example is easier than making the melted variety. The Bulgarian example was just made with a course grinding stone - looks like 80 grit diamond to me. It really speeds up the production pace when you only have to knock a finished marble off into the annealing oven and not mess with the flame polishing and smoothing....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Well, thank you for your thoughts. I guess there's no need to post more pictures. Take care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronmarbles Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Please post more pics. I am just offering some of my personal glass working observations. Free dialogue is all about sharing and learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Absolutely, It sure would be a boring world if we all agreed on everything. Heck, I have a problem getting anyone to agree with me about anything(LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wediscount2 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 http://www.ebay.com/...984.m1497.l2649 Good Lord Galen what a piece of crap!!! This valkilmer seller sure socks it off in those poor dumb novice bidders, or else he's bidding on his own crap. You would have to be a real retard to not see thru his BS. Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wediscount2 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 That's the point. They probably all have melted pontils. Old melted pontils marbles are all made in the USA and never have oxblood. A melted pontil oxblood marble should never be mistaken as old. Not for next 50 years anyway. What's your excuse for buying all the one's you bought, LOL!!!!! Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wediscount2 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 That's some real nice artwork!! Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Don't exactly know what BS you are directing at me Ronnie. I have been calling the marbles from Bulgaria as modern repros from day one??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 What's your excuse for buying all the one's you bought, LOL!!!!! Ronnie Excuse? No excuse. I was naive enough to believe your story that those "bricks" you polished had been found in a burned out MFC factory. Fortunately the attorney's fees were affordable and I got most my money back. But that was some 20 years ago. Heard you've since reformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Here's an interesting listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/290870541683 "German style", "made in Bulgaria", "1960s" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wediscount2 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Don't exactly know what BS you are directing at me Ronnie. I have been calling the marbles from Bulgaria as modern repros from day one??? Nothing directed personally towards you Galen, it was directed at those who fell for this seller. Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wediscount2 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Excuse? No excuse. I was naive enough to believe your story that those "bricks" you polished had been found in a burned out MFC factory. Fortunately the attorney's fees were affordable and I got most my money back. But that was some 20 years ago. Heard you've since reformed. Gee Hansel I thought by gones were by gones. If anything you should have thanked me for the lesson you learned, and how many fake medals and fake marbles have you contributed your "INPUT" into lately?!!! LOL,LOL You need to clean up your own act before you try and clean up mine. But everything's all right, I still like you. Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Here's an interesting listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/290870541683 "German style", "made in Bulgaria", "1960s" Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 I just posted in another thread about a Bulgarian movie title which translated into "Glass Marbles". The Bulgarian title didn't show up right when I pasted it here. But it might useful for future reference as a Google search term. Here's one page which showed up today. The Google translator makes it look like a "want to buy" ad, complete with buyer's email. (Or possibly the ad is from someone wanting to sell but the comment came from a potential buyer.) Maybe it's a Bulgarian marble collector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Ooops, I forgot to link to the ad. http://prodavalnik.com/trsya-stkleni-topcheta-limki-kato-tezi-ot-snimkite-ot-edno-vreme-sots-vreme-imashe-gi-vsyako-srelbische-i7688737 The description on the photo(s) in that ad translated to: LOOKING GLASS BALLS LIMKI made in Sliven OF FURNACE FROM ONE TIME DURING SOC Wiki says Sliven is the 8th largest city in Bulgaria. What might "SOC" be? [Edit: Looks like Socialist era ... 1946 to 1990?] [Next edit: Limki is apparently a Bulgarian marble game (link) and might also be the name used for the marbles themselves (link) ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted February 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Nothing directed personally towards you Galen, it was directed at those who fell for this seller. Ronnie Poor dumb novice bidders? Boy your about as bright as a burned out light! If these are truly modern remakes I believe other collector new and old will learn what to look for when purchasing marbles. If me lossing a few dollars help us as a community then I'm ok with that. More pictures to come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted February 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Gee Hansel I thought by gones were by gones. If anything you should have thanked me for the lesson you learned, and how many fake medals and fake marbles have you contributed your "INPUT" into lately?!!! LOL,LOL You need to clean up your own act before you try and clean up mine. But everything's all right, I still like you. Ronnie Challenged? Well screwing people over is Challenged. You challenged person! Ok, that's not nice! LOL... Is that better Steph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 I'm hoping we can let that be the last time the r-word gets used. I cringed when Ronnie used it but I'm trying to err on the side on not censoring. Might have to excise part of this thread and send it to the BOI/SZ. Hope not. It's a possibility though. Good thread for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Socialist era but it was a communism regime from 1947 till 1989. I think the add asks for marbles from that time. It remains quesswork but it's possible they have made marbles at that time,and the Bulgarians found out that the Americans pay big money for marbles,just a thought........ It says nothing but most of the "Bulgarian"marbles i've never seen before. If we know so little about German marbles,how on earth could we know something about Bulgarian marbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 "If we know so little about German marbles,how on earth could we know something about Bulgarian marbles." Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted March 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 I agree we all have a lot to learn about handmade marbles and there origin. Another trans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted March 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Blue, white, purple, a little red with some clear base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Did that come from Bulgaria? Wonder what else we might someday see from the Eastern Bloc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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