MarbleClueless Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Is this a Christensen or Peltier? Or something else? I have it in with my Christensen's but the color sure blends in well in the Peltier tin. Once again, thank you in advance for your help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 I'll go with Peltier Peerless Patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 I'm going with Steph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 Same guy mixed up colors at both places(at different times) so it is reasonable to assume some would be fairly similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 He wasn't at Peltier in the Peerless Patch era. But construction-wise, it's a patch, not a swirl. To my eye, anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Any way I bet they didnt throw out the recipes he was using and fooling with when he left. He was also at Akro and those 3 companies sure have some similar colors. Not assuming it was because of Arnie just saying it may have been a contributing factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migbar Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Peltier had been making sheet glass from batch for many, many years before Arnold arrived, and had their own formulas for all these colors, and was one of the first companies in the country to make opalescent glass. It is more likely that Arnold left Peltier with many of their formulas. They needed his help to learn how to make marbles, not glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Contract says he was also there to make glass and formulate new colors as needed?. The 3rd paragraph is really interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migbar Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Peltier had all the knowledge necessary to make the furnaces and all the glass colors they would ever likely need, but they didn't know whether or not they would have to build special furnaces, or develop new colors, in order to be successful in their new marble endeavor, so Arnold was hired to cover all that. As you know from later correspondence, Arnold failed in many of these duties, and Sellers took over many of these tasks, especially relating to the furnaces and new glass development, such as the cerise and opal glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleClueless Posted November 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Thank you for proving some history. I love the contract. Nothing like subtle language. Suzie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 . . . As you know from later correspondence, Arnold failed in many of these duties, and Sellers took over many of these tasks, especially relating to the furnaces and new glass development, such as the cerise and opal glass. Additional interesting timeline events of note . . . Fiedler leaves Akro when Henry Hellmers is hired as glass chemist there . . . Fiedler goes to Peltier but fails, as noted in correspondence mentioned above (which I've read too) . . . and Christensen Agate ceases manufacturing (and fails) about the same time Hellmers is hired as the glass chemist for Cambridge Glass . . . Just sayin.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck G Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Gotta go with a pelt patch also. Chuck G-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Ding Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 Great information and discussion. Appreciated adding a few more tidbits, to a brain over-filled with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Pelt would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 There was one letter that I know of where Sellers complained to Gropper about Arnold not doing what he should and Sellers bitching that he had to do it all. Now I think this was a while before his 1st year of employment was completed. If he had continued with a poor performance I would not think his employment would have continued for what, a couple more years??? For all I know he could have really sucked at what he did and he was just running a scam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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