Steph Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Help! Ron recently threw quite the major kink into my understanding of this category. He pointed out a surprising type and everything I thought I knew about them shattered! LOL And now I need to rebuild it! So, what is the range of variation? Some looks so different from Marble King and some looks so similar. And some may actually have come from MK (right?) when they had orders to fill and ran out. I need to haul ought my copy of American Machine-Made Marbles to check that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted June 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2016 Heaton or Bogard ... I can never remember which anymore ... I have it in the Bogard folder at Photobucket, so let's call it that ... Four vanes. Transparent/translucent. At least three different shades. Plenty o' bubbles. Medium-surface area on the vanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofKent Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Pretty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Bogard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted June 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 They have bananas and marbles with sharp skinny vanes and marbles which look kinda MK-y but have translucent vanes and marbles which look even more MK-y. How did so much variety come from one little factory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I'd say every time somebody chucked whatever was available into the tank . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofKent Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Steph - you do realise that I've had to track down a packet of Mountain Shooters and a couple more bags of Big Shots just because of this thread? You're a bad influence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted June 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I am sooooooo sorry. Can you ever forgive me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofKent Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 6 hours ago, Steph said: I am sooooooo sorry. Can you ever forgive me? I will, but I'm not sure whether my wife or bank manager will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofKent Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Mountaineer Shooters: This particular packet has one clearie and one odd marble, with the rest being four vane. The odd one (green) is half filled with green threads following the curve of the marble, a bit like some French sparklers. The rest are four vane. The vanes aren't the fairly well centred relatively consistent type typical of my Heaton or Marble King four vanes. All colours apart from the yellow (which generally fill the marble to the point they look like they're trying to escape with the tips squeezed right to the edge) only fill part of the marble and are mostly off centre and slightly wavy - more like Vitro's. Both the yellow and blue have darker self coloured tips to the veins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted June 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Neat to have those two different ones. One fancy. The transparent/translucent vanes are ones I think of as non-Marble-King ... or at least not vintage Marble King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofKent Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Interestingly my Heaton four-vane yellows fluoresce a light orange under UV whilst the Bogard don't. Obviously I can't say it's true for all examples of either company.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 For interest, CE Bogard stapled their headers over the Heaton headers after they bought the company. Here are some of those bags. I will post some other bags pics of CE Bogard also. Remember, there were some fake CE Bogard bags made by that guy out of Florida in the mid to late 1990's and he used MK cat's-eyes in those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Here are a few other CE Bogard bags - all real with the "seam" on the reverse of the bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Some Heaton bags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 And this Heaton bag has odd cat's-eyes - simlar to Vitro hybrids - sorry, best pictures that I have and can't find the bag right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Oregon Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Last few Heaton bags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofKent Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 That's a great collection Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofKent Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 As I'd got a couple of 10 count Big Shot's I thought I'd carefully open one: Contents: Most are what I'd describe as 'Marble Kingesque', although there's frequently a gap where the vanes meet. Three variants in this pack: Yellow 'Marble Kingesque' (glows under UV), orange transparent vane and a lighter orange more wavy vane that's more 'vitro-like' with a lighter centre to the vanes darkening towards the tip (possibly more obvious in the previous group shot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted June 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted June 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 Aesthetically I love the dark transparent orange and the deep green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 My only Bogart bag -- some weird ones in there -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 hmmm ... the green dot one? what is happening there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofKent Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Bogard appear to have been the main supplier of Cats Eyes to Champion for their mixed packs - the unsold packs from their warehouse have a lot of Bogard in them - some of the packs look like Ann's example just with a few Champion clearies mixed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 11:04 AM, Steph said: hmmm ... the green dot one? what is happening there? Just a rounded butt-crack kinda thingee. Has a few snips of green ribbons on the other side -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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