DINDO Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 What is an Ace? How to identify a St. Marys cat eye? Think thats it for now. I am sure i have many more. Or if anyone has any,please add. It is a continous learning curve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 Ace can be a tough question. For Akro, the Ace was one of these: If you hold an Ace up to the light, the white should have some orange glow inside. More Ace pictures here: http://marbleconnection.com/topic/17380-akro-aces-early-1930s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 However, for collectors a different kind of marble is frequently called an Ace. I need to go find a picture or a link. Be right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 A marble friend, Don, sent me these pictures as examples of what collectors may call Aces: The base is sort of milky, but doesn't have the orange glow which the official Akro company Ace had: Here are the ones he showed as basic Ace shooters. Here's a more fancy variety. He called these Tomato Ace Cork Shooters. The name that Akro sold them under was Moss Agate. (For Akro, Moss Agates could be patches, or they could swirly/corky marbles.) But it's a pretty solid tradition for collectors to call this kind Aces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 This is the kind of cat's eye which is often called a St. Marys. There are other combos which are legit St. Marys. And there are some modern ones which are reminiscent of the vintage St. Marys, but I'll leave it at this for now. Maybe someone else can show more pix or give an explanation. Do you have any particular marbles that you had questions about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DINDO Posted August 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 Thanks Steph,much obliged. The aces is going to take some time to reread and digest. This info is great. I dont have a particular cat eye in mind. I was contemplating going through the bucket again to see if there may be some St Marys. I have already pulled out unusual colours or odditys. I am going to make a cat eye display. The thought of looking through 1500 cat eyes again is a bit daunting. But..probbly will slowly but surely. So far i have a modern Mexico/Asia display, 2 vintage America, German handmade, Euro machine. Think the cats deserve their day. This hobby keeps growing somehow 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DINDO Posted August 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 The Ace explanation and pics were great. Seems straight forward and easy to understand . Hopefully i will recognise one now. The cats seem to have a common trait of the same colour vein passing through to opposite side. 1 question How did Jabo " Marleys" get their name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 For the two-color St. Marys, that is the intended pattern. The divisions aren't always sharp and some people like the sort of hybrid look. I was trained to think the clean divisions were ideal. There were also four-color St. Marys. I posted one of course. Pretty sure there were other combinations. If I recall correctly, Don (Poplarhead) has a wide variety. Could have been someone else. Maybe Mike? (mmuehlba) Here's what a collector named Joe Schlemmer posted on behalf of the Marleys investors back in 2010: Mary E. Knudsen, Al W. Sumner, & Richard M. See have joined with Jabo, inc., with the wonderful assistance of Dave McCullough & Joanne Argabrite, to produce our own limited edition run Called Jabo Marley. Marley is an old english word for marbles. By happy coincidence, the name also represents we three investors M = Mary A = Al R = Rick add the "l-e-y-s" and we have the jabo marleys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DINDO Posted August 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 As usual 👍,ty Ive seen the Marleys on Ebay . I just assumed they were named after Bob Marley... much better to ask knowledgeable people , and now i know...and some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chuck G Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 Dindo, an Ace example will have a (translucent) whitish base, some example a deeper translucent than others, almost to an opaque, you can get some light thru the translucency base. St Marys cats eyes will for most part have the internal vanes a (cross thru) look to them, some may be wavey a little also. Take your hands and close them flat, fingers all together, then hold one on top of the other, this is what a St Marys will look like. St Marys did make some really super nice cats eyes. I will add also with the Ace factor in akro that some akro did have colored Ace base glass. Some may consider this (NOT) an ace but i would, but that is me. Chuck G-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco005 Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 Always a fun topic, is it an Ace or no? I've been told that these are Akro Aces for their orange glow in the base glass: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco005 Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 And this one is not. It is a Moss Agate corkscrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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